World gone mad...

[eggsarascal]

You know these forums/ social media channels you talk of does anyome ever mention being paid to DJ and not turning up?

 

Or, does it just work one.way?

[topchippyles]

1 hour ago, Peter 1955 said:

In my ( usually ) night time occupation, as a Mobile DJ, because of events along the lines of those described above, it's becoming the norm among Professional DJ's to issue a contract stating that full payment will be made possibly a fortnight before the event, or they're not loading up the van to even set off. 

Every time someone posts on Facebook/Forums that they've been stiffed for their previously agreed wages, these folk point out that such terms and conditions preclude this possibility. 

Some things are paid for in advance, others not. 

 

Its not the normal done thing in the building trade. Maybe because its work that the electrician has not completed himself he is being wary. 

[Peter 1955]

On 27/07/2025 at 21:51, eggsarascal said:

You know these forums/ social media channels you talk of does anyome ever mention being paid to DJ and not turning up?

 

Or, does it just work one.way?

Indeed yes. There are one or two folk with reputations lower than a snake's bottom, who have been known to ask for payment in advance, only for a catastrophe involving poorly relatives, poorly vans, and/or other terrible events to prevent them doing what they agreed to. I did a wedding where the singing waiters had stiffed the organisers ( groom's parents ) for a considerable sum and vanished, also the caterer ran off with as much cash as he could liquidate a week before the event, and was last seen heading for pastures new. Trust works both ways. 

23 hours ago, topchippyles said:

Its not the normal done thing in the building trade. Maybe because its work that the electrician has not completed himself he is being wary. 

Quite possibly. Understandable. It can take a while to build up trust, but a minute to lose it. 

[Oldfeller]

13 hours ago, Peter 1955 said:

Indeed yes. There are one or two folk with reputations lower than a snake's bottom, who have been known to ask for payment in advance, only for a catastrophe involving poorly relatives, poorly vans, and/or other terrible events to prevent them doing what they agreed to. I did a wedding where the singing waiters had stiffed the organisers ( groom's parents ) for a considerable sum and vanished, also the caterer ran off with as much cash as he could liquidate a week before the event, and was last seen heading for pastures new. Trust works both ways. 

Quite possibly. Understandable. It can take a while to build up trust, but a minute to lose it. 

I was once asked to "assist" in the recovery of goods fitted to a hotel/country club project that had clearly gone south, the bloke responsible had fleeced just about everyone involved in it and I was with the heating installer as he didn't fancy going alone, we had already removed the new boiler that had not been paid for, and moved on to pipework and rads, valves etc, so I'm in one of the rooms and the door bursts open and six feckin' huge guys enter the room with a little attitude, I grab a couple of copper off cuts and hoping to show them my amateur escrima  skills asks, "ok, who's first" matey is behind me with an adjustable wrench looking rather nervous.

they all look a little taken aback by my willingness for combat,, and the front guy says,," steady mate we're just here to collect the snooker table that hasn't been paid for" I have to admit I was a bit relieved, all day people were turning up to salvage what they could from the work they had done and were never to get paid for, carpets, lighting, tables, various items of furniture. It later transpired the con man who was the culprit in this had done similar previously, and a couple of rather suspect insurance jobs.

I expect those that got burned were a bit dubious about starting the next job without at least a sizable deposit for work they were contracted for.

[Tree monkey 1682]

3 hours ago, Oldfeller said:

I was once asked to "assist" in the recovery of goods fitted to a hotel/country club project that had clearly gone south, the bloke responsible had fleeced just about everyone involved in it and I was with the heating installer as he didn't fancy going alone, we had already removed the new boiler that had not been paid for, and moved on to pipework and rads, valves etc, so I'm in one of the rooms and the door bursts open and six feckin' huge guys enter the room with a little attitude, I grab a couple of copper off cuts and hoping to show them my amateur escrima  skills asks, "ok, who's first" matey is behind me with an adjustable wrench looking rather nervous.

they all look a little taken aback by my willingness for combat,, and the front guy says,," steady mate we're just here to collect the snooker table that hasn't been paid for" I have to admit I was a bit relieved, all day people were turning up to salvage what they could from the work they had done and were never to get paid for, carpets, lighting, tables, various items of furniture. It later transpired the con man who was the culprit in this had done similar previously, and a couple of rather suspect insurance jobs.

I expect those that got burned were a bit dubious about starting the next job without at least a sizable deposit for work they were contracted for.

I knew of a dopey plumber who got screwed for 30k 🤣 if your nieve enough to let bills rack up on the hope of getting paid  -u only have your self to blame .

Also just for future reference ,doing also what you've done in the past you need to be very wary of doing,  can be classed as theft and also if you book out materials knowing someone's going bankrupt it can be classed as fraud ...best thing is ask for money up front or chase them through court .

Its not easy for the small people ...but just ask the idiots who supplied goods to carillon up front and never got paid ..

Some people learn the hard way .

 

[eggsarascal]

1 hour ago, Tree monkey 1682 said:

I knew of a dopey plumber who got screwed for 30k 🤣 if your nieve enough to let bills rack up on the hope of getting paid  -u only have your self to blame .

Also just for future reference ,doing also what you've done in the past you need to be very wary of doing,  can be classed as theft and also if you book out materials knowing someone's going bankrupt it can be classed as fraud ...best thing is ask for money up front or chase them through court .

Its not easy for the small people ...but just ask the idiots who supplied goods to carillon up front and never got paid ..

Some people learn the hard way .

 

That's my whole point, trust is earned. Why anyone would expect me to pay them upfront when I've never dealt with them before is beyond me, and vice versa.

[Tree monkey 1682]

6 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

That's my whole point, trust is earned. Why anyone would expect me to pay them upfront when I've never dealt with them before is beyond me, and vice versa.

Depends , what services was it ? 

When I worked for kier who I don't know from anywhere i asked for money up front.. I also turned down a 50k job with them also because it would have been such a **************** about and could have made me go bankrupt ....so yeah I'm at that point where I'm not bothered about work I've either got my t&c s or il do another job that I know will pay.

That's it really , and don't care 😂

[Peter 1955]

1 hour ago, eggsarascal said:

That's my whole point, trust is earned. Why anyone would expect me to pay them upfront when I've never dealt with them before is beyond me, and vice versa.

We're back to trust. Most of my new clients for the disco are happy to pay a deposit after signing a contract, but prefer to pay the balance in cash on the night, when they can see the whites of my eyes. Regular clients are allowed far more relaxed terms. Trust. 

When someone pees in the water supply ( such as the last minute christening passed on to me who stiffed me for £200 and the venue for £400 ) you tend to mistrust all customers for a while after. 

[AHPP]

1 hour ago, eggsarascal said:

and vice versa

Work up front, so to speak.