Pig tail on steel, machine-mounted winch cable

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, Doug Tait said:

Doesn't look bad to me. The swivel just helps allow the cable to untwist better, even a length of rope between anchor and hook would help.

 

I don't think the fraying is significant, openspaceman may disagree, much more knowledgeable than I.

No not too bad, just wear gloves as Mick says.

 

Easiest thing to do is buy a keyhole slider to hook to, this will distribute the load, then you can also use a chain to do the chokering.

 

Keyhole Slider For Forestry Choker Chalns 6mm or 7-8mm

WWW.EBAY.CO.UK

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Keyhole Slider for Forestry Choker Chains. Slider and keyhole plate for choker chains.

 

[JonnoR]

3 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

No not too bad, just wear gloves as Mick says.

 

Easiest thing to do is buy a keyhole slider to hook to, this will distribute the load, then you can also use a chain to do the chokering.

 

Keyhole Slider For Forestry Choker Chalns 6mm or 7-8mm

WWW.EBAY.CO.UK

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Keyhole Slider for Forestry Choker Chains. Slider and keyhole plate for choker chains.

 

Thanks for the tip with the keyhole slider.  I'll definitely order one of those, thanks!

Edited Sunday at 13:15 by JonnoR
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[Dan Maynard]

I was going to say have a look at Chris Forestry, but that's his eBay shop anyway.

https://www.chrisforestry.co.uk/store

[openspaceman]

44 minutes ago, Dan Maynard said:

I was going to say have a look at Chris Forestry, but that's his eBay shop anyway.

https://www.chrisforestry.co.uk/store

I think Clark are a bit cheaper for skidding gear but their chokers are 8mm which is too big for smaller winches, I'm guessing that 6mm choker chain and slider would be better for the iron horse.

 

I use 8mm gear in case I need it with the 6 tonne Farmi winch but it's galling hauling it and some 50m of wire rope up a steep slope.

[JonnoR]

2 hours ago, openspaceman said:

I think Clark are a bit cheaper for skidding gear but their chokers are 8mm which is too big for smaller winches, I'm guessing that 6mm choker chain and slider would be better for the iron horse.

 

I use 8mm gear in case I need it with the 6 tonne Farmi winch but it's galling hauling it and some 50m of wire rope up a steep slope.

I've only got 900kgs tow capacity (I think - it may have been updated when I bought the thing) and 20 metres of cable as standard, so a 6mm choker should be fine.

[JonnoR]

Would this be appropriate do you think for my needs? 

J1 New England Style Choker

WWW.CHRISFORESTRY.CO.UK

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Wallingford's Golden Bell Chokers. Made in New Hampton USA. Light and durable. J1 chokers are made with a ferrule on one end and a turnback eye with 3 links of chain on the other...

 It seem that I could use this for both my cable winch and my capstan winch, which would use the chain links.

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, JonnoR said:

Would this be appropriate do you think for my needs? 

J1 New England Style Choker

WWW.CHRISFORESTRY.CO.UK

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Wallingford's Golden Bell Chokers. Made in New Hampton USA. Light and durable. J1 chokers are made with a ferrule on one end and a turnback eye with 3 links of chain on the other...

 It seem that I could use this for both my cable winch and my capstan winch, which would use the chain links.

I have never used one, how will it join to the line, I suspect it needs a special slider to attach to the line.

 

I mostly used chains because we were hauling predominantly sawlog size whole tree lengths but with the Holder and 3 tonne winches early on I used polypropylene rope loops with larks head around the tree and sliders of 13mm spring steel bent to push and twist onto the line. The line was terminated with a soft eye which had a pin and loop, like a very big tractor lynch pin. With up to 8 tiny trees on each winch  you remove the lynch pin and winch in the wire rope to disconnect the trees from the wire. Very strange way to try and make a living looking back, two of us would struggle to get 3 m3 out a day in first thinnings.

[Doug Tait]

7 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

how will it join to the line

 

The hook on Jonno's existing cable will clip to the eye? And he'll need a choker chain as well to grab the timber.

 

Alternative way would be fit a slider to existing cable and use with choker chain.

 

Keyhole Slider

WWW.CHRISFORESTRY.CO.UK

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Slider with keyhole plate for choker chains - various sizes available

 

Chain Choker 7mm

WWW.CHRISFORESTRY.CO.UK

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Square Profile Choker Chain with needle Thickness: 7mm Breaking load (kN): 60 (6ton) Length (m): 2m or 2.5 metres...

 

[Doug Tait]

Just realised this one chokes as on itself.

 

J1 New England Style Choker

WWW.CHRISFORESTRY.CO.UK

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Wallingford's Golden Bell Chokers. Made in New Hampton USA. Light and durable. J1 chokers are made with a ferrule on one...

 

[JonnoR]

27 minutes ago, Doug Tait said:

Just realised this one chokes as on itself.

 

J1 New England Style Choker

WWW.CHRISFORESTRY.CO.UK

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Wallingford's Golden Bell Chokers. Made in New Hampton USA. Light and durable. J1 chokers are made with a ferrule on one...

 

That's what I figured.  The capstan winch I've had for a few years fits the chain choker it came with, but with the one above I could hook it in to the winch hook on my Lennartsfors, as well as using it with the three links of chain on my capstan.  Couple of them and I choke up the next set of logs while my missus winches in the last load.