Cordless saw: Stihl MSA 300 vs. 200?

[gensetsteve]

On 05/12/2024 at 22:36, Mark_Skyland said:

It looks like there are two different motors for the 200, they have different part numbers and covers than the 220 and the electronic module is different too. So even if the motor does fit you may not get any additional power due to the different control unit.

I've attached the parts diagram for the 200 showing the different motors and a completely different type of electronic module and an attachment for the 220

 

msa 200.pdf 117.04 kB · 7 downloads 220.pdf 97.29 kB · 4 downloads

That’s a useful couple of drawings . Do you have a ball park figure for a new motor . I would say if it’s over £100 might as well buy a new saw 

[Stere]

Bit pricey: £220

 

 

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Edited December 7 by Stere

[Mark_Skyland]

9 hours ago, gensetsteve said:

That’s a useful couple of drawings . Do you have a ball park figure for a new motor . I would say if it’s over £100 might as well buy a new saw 

£160. 

[Al Gordita]

On 04/12/2024 at 14:41, peds said:

Not played with a 300, and don't know exactly what you mean by "heavy-duty arb work", but you'd likely be disappointed with both options if you mean genuinely heavy duty.

 

That said, I love my 200, it does exactly what I ask of it, and I recommend them to anyone who asks.

 

But yeah...clarification needed as to what you define as heavy duty!

Hi peds,
Yes sorry you're right, I really wasn't being very clear. I actually just mean "more heavy-duty than cutting slightly oversized branches in people's gardens" - so, cutting up medium-sized trunks on the ground, that sort of thing. I'm a total newbie which is partly why I'm not being very specific, I'm trying to set myself up for the eventuality of work that I haven't done yet 😅.I 've only just done my ground saw ticket, felling small trees and climbing tickets will follow at some point next year. At the moment, I do freelance tree work in people's gardens, but want to be able to pick up some ground work too, and work in a few friends' woodlands.

[Al Gordita]

On 04/12/2024 at 15:42, Steven P said:

Do you have a maximum budget?

 

Difference in price is about £300? which is the 200 + a couple of batteries. Slightly less power but more cutting time? 

 

How much do you expect to cut in a day? 

Yes, that's a valid consideration which goes to the heart of my question I guess. I'm happy to spend more on the larger saw if it means I then won't have to replace or upgrade it straight away - but am struggling to work out what is reasonable in my position. Don't have much tree work yet and am still building up my experience, so am not expecting back-to-back non-stop chainsaw wielding days anytime soon. Definitely considering buying two batteries, whichever model I choose!

[Al Gordita]

On 04/12/2024 at 18:58, maybelateron said:

I have a MSA 220, with 14 inch bar. It is our saw of choice these days until we need a bit more power. I have felled a 14 inch basal diameter ash with it when we did an early morning start. Chain was sharp and coped, but I would not want to do this regularly. Ideal saw for snedding and smaller fells. No experience of the 300 version myself.

Thank you, that's really helpful information 🙂.

[Al Gordita]

On 05/12/2024 at 12:48, Stere said:

I very much aspire to this setup! 😁

 

Corded chipper.....

 

Don't german houses all have 3 phase also that would be nice.....

 

[Al Gordita]

Just now, Al Gordita said:

 

Don't know what I've done here - wrong video! I'm referring to the Swiss cargo bike guy.

[peds]

I don't remember seeing him this summer, but two and three years ago I saw a fella cycling around town with a similar setup - but a Stihl battery mower, not a chipper - and a selection of Stihl cordless tools. Obviously going for the zero emissions crowd.

It must have been going well enough for him, because last summer (2023), I saw that he had upgraded to a tandem!

Fair play to the guy.

 

Edit: with regards to your ongoing conundrum, yeah, you'll definitely need at least 2 batteries, especially if you hope to be working for someone else... it'll be tricky enough to convince some people on the day-long efficacy of battery tools as it is, especially as a ground saw, without you burning through all of your available power. It'd be hugely embarrassing.

 

Personally, I'm still of the opinion that you'd need a bigger petrol saw, for now, as well as your battery saw... but who knows what improvements in technology we'll see in the future. But some people say that the 300 can match a 50cc saw all-day, I don't know. 

Edited December 8 by peds

[AHPP]

1 hour ago, peds said:

some people say the 300 can match a 50cc saw all-day

 

Can it fxck.

Edited December 8 by AHPP