Fires???

[Dean Lofthouse]

If I get the job I'll get a copy of the consent.

 

Controlled burn is with fire extinguishing capabilities

[Amelanchier]

Controlled burn is with fire extinguishing capabilities

 

Is it not self evident that you should have that capability before lighting the fire?!? Otherwise your getting pretty close to my new offence of "Arson by moronic negligence"!

 

Incidentally, Mynors notes that criminal damage to trees by fire is Arson under the Criminal Damage Act 1971 and as such carries a possible life sentence...

[Billy]

Just one thought....like most dust hazards, the ash so small you can't see that it is most damaging, not the bigger stuff that falls to the ground....after gaining height in a rising clounm of hot air, fine ash can carry a very long way...ever wondered what smoke is made off? not just carbon I can asure you.

 

Oh and don't foget the hazards to the workers as well, remember some trees have real toxic potential....

"For instance, the Portuguese Laurel (Prunus lusitanica) has cyanide compounds in its leaf structure. On no account should this foliage be burnt."

 

If all that genuinley bothers you then you must object to all fires? Life's too short to worry about smoke from a bonfire in that much detail imo, millions of people walk to work next to main roads every day.It can't be alot worse than us working with chainsaws spraying oil into the air around us off the bar and from the exhaust all day long can it. I've had plenty of fires in rural and fairly built up areas with few complaints as long as neighbours are consulted prior to the works commencing generally everyone is happy and has their windows shut and washing in etc.

Seems perfectly professional to me why drag, chip and transport if you can get away with having a fire pretty much in the drop zone so much more efficient and oftenthe best way of dealing with arising imo. Where the law is concerned i'm sure we could sell arising back tot he customer for a pound then burn them for them,as was mentioned inthe waste transport license thread:001_tt2:

[Spikey]

My Yard is on a farm and the landlady has told me that she has a licence to burn from the EA so I add quite a bit to her burn heap

[Roger Day]

If all that genuinely bothers you then you must object to all fires? Life's too short to worry about smoke from a bonfire in that much detail IMO, millions of people walk to work next to main roads every day.It can't be alot worse than us working with chainsaws spraying oil into the air around us off the bar and from the exhaust all day long can it. I've had plenty of fires in rural and fairly built up areas with few complaints as long as neighbors are consulted prior to the works commencing generally everyone is happy and has their windows shut and washing in etc.

Seems perfectly professional to me why drag, chip and transport if you can get away with having a fire pretty much in the drop zone so much more efficient and often the best way of dealing with arising IMO. Where the law is concerned I'm sure we could sell arising back tot he customer for a pound then burn them for them,as was mentioned Ianthe waste transport license thread:001_tt2:

 

Please read the environment health act before you stick your smilie tongue out at me again.

 

1) I never said it was unprofessional. As a forester I have been witness and participant to numerous similar acts.

2) Yes you are correct. Oil spray and fumes from saws is a health hazard which is why legislation is changing to match the contemporary knowledge in this area. If there was a fume less, oil-less alternative I am sure operators would be happy.

 

Whats wrong about all this IMO is that these trees, which are actually a valuable resource are being treated as waste and not an asset. In Austria for example, when trees are cut, every effort is made to utilized the potential fuel, even the brush is collected and used.

As for transporting "Waste" the truth is that the answer is to keep it local. Again in Europe examples of municipal building complexes having Bio fuel plants that utilize this "waste" and heat schools, halls, Hospitals etc, are numerous. What is the point of transporting such bulky material to Wales where the only properly equipped chip handling power plant is. The fossil fuel used negates any gain. The govenment has sold us short in this respect.

Please don't get me wrong, I understand the financial considerations, but the UK seems to be behind other countries in managing this asset. This, if used with for sight could reduce our bills, have less impact on the environment and generally benefit everybody.

Edited January 27, 2010 by Roger Day
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[18 stoner]

My Yard is on a farm and the landlady has told me that she has a licence to burn from the EA so I add quite a bit to her burn heap

 

I think you may find this part of your quote needs more attention paying to it "the landlady has told me that she has a licence to burn from the EA"

 

It is HER exemtion, not yours! The "waste" you are "transporting to her place" is "commercial", and she will not be allowed to burn "commercial waste"

 

Do you also have a waste carriers licence for said waste?

[Mesterh]

I also thought that burning on site was better for the environment ie no transport and processing impact.

[Spikey]

Yes I do have a waste carriers licence and if she sets light to a heap how could the origins of the hedge cuttings be proven ?

[18 stoner]

Sounds like you are part of the way there then with the transport license. Can you provide proof that you tip at an authorised site? Like bridge tickets?

 

It only needs a neighbour with a grudge to report you, or the EA to follow you (they do), and you will be investigated and threatened with a hefty fine.

 

Not saying it doesnt go on, just not the best place to advertise that you do it, IMO.

[Spikey]

Yep have bridge tickets, its only hedge cuttings and rakings the sort of rubbish that everyone burns in there yard