Timber prices

[Big Beech]

Ive  been offered some Elm, and as a fair man i want to pay fair money but not be fingered by the seller!

What, where or how are the going rates for timber calculated, is there an industry pricing model or is it a case of paying what you feel is mutually acceptable?

This is a  commercial seller and obviously they know more than I, but I'd like to know what they are asking is fair.

What is the going rate for pippy/ burr Oak, Elm, spalted Beech etc ?

Ash seems to be down for fire wood prices and how many bags a bloke can get out of the stem.... which leaves majority of it unobtainable in price!

Any advice on hoppus foot prices or a link would be fantastic.

A few recent boards off the mill 900 wide Yew, and some over size WRC

Tia

[agg221]

I would want to put a cut in a sample (could be a side branch) to check the colour.

 

Elm can be anywhere from chocolate brown to orange with green and purple streaks to very pale cream - none of these are due to fungal infection, just natural features of a really varied timber. The chocolate brown can be about the colour of black walnut. The pale one is worth a lot less than the dark one.

 

The last I bought at Hoppus rates I paid £8/Hoppus for a mix of dark and orange with streaking. The seller wasn't too bothered to check colour so I probably bought it a bit cheap (but then I didn't have the chance to check colours other than on fresh cut endgrain which is never as accurate). I would think £5/Hoppus for plain, pale but good wide boards, £7 or £8/Hoppus for nice colour and potential figure and £10/Hoppus for really dark or very good figure.

 

However, as you suggest, it is down to what is locally available and everyone is happy with. I bought mine out of a mixed parcel of hardwood which was heading for a small mill. The mill made an offer and I matched it which suited the seller who had cleared the trees from a development site as there weren't enough butts in total to make up another load to the mill, which was the opposite direction from where he lived, so if I had the elm he could avoid the trip and drop it off with me which happened to be on his way home. If I had bought it in the round from the mill it would have been more; if I didn't want much then there is enough elm in this area that I could probably buy the odd stem for very little (there is one which was felled by a farmer last winter and is currently sitting going to waste).

 

Alec

[Squaredy]

Elm is very beautiful timber but has traditionally only had a low value.  These days it is difficult to say, as for most of the UK it is not available by the lorry load so most sawmills simply don't buy it any more.

 

I agree with @agg221 that it is worth around £5 per hoppus foot,maybe a bit less.  Personally I would be more concerned about shake (especially ring shake) than colour.  My experience of Elm is it is all beautiful, but can suffer from ring shake which will cause a lot of waste.

[Big Beech]

Thank you gentlemen, that gives me something to work on.

I recently had a very small piece i managed to aquire, but this may be a lot more and potentially bigger.

Not fantastic quality  but Elm none the less, something I rarely see.

[gobbypunk]

Hi pricing is what I am struggling with at the moment is there like a timber price guide and what calculations are there to turn a cubic mtr into a linner mtr.

Thanks. Mark

[Big Beech]

On 26/06/2021 at 13:39, Squaredy said:

Elm is very beautiful timber but has traditionally only had a low value.  These days it is difficult to say, as for most of the UK it is not available by the lorry load so most sawmills simply don't buy it any more.

 

I agree with @agg221 that it is worth around £5 per hoppus foot,maybe a bit less.  Personally I would be more concerned about shake (especially ring shake) than colour.  My experience of Elm is it is all beautiful, but can suffer from ring shake which will cause a lot of waste.

Thank you 

What about Redwood price hoppus?

I want to buy a chunk possibly