New member and first question

[dsmith1974]

Hi All,

 

New member here and new to tree climbing in general. Looking forward to getting a rig up in the garden!

 

I’ve got as far as installing the rope in a cambian saver, but I may have a safety issue with my rig.

 

My rope is a Yale Hedera 11.7mm but my descender is a Petzl ID L, which is only rated for 12.5mm to 13mm. I presume the 11.7 would be unsafe in the ID L?

 

I could get the ID S which is rated up to 11.5mm. Would that be close enough? Or should I get an 11mm rope for the ID S?

 

TIA,

Duncan

[Steve Bullman]

Don't think you'll find many people in the tree industry using an ID so you might struggle to get a specific answer, but generally speaking an 11.7mm rope would work in a device specified for 11.5mm, it would just be a little bit more snug and not as free running. definitely wouldn't advise using it with ID you have though.

[dsmith1974]

Don't think you'll find many people in the tree industry using an ID so you might struggle to get a specific answer, but generally speaking an 11.7mm rope would work in a device specified for 11.5mm, it would just be a little bit more snug and not as free running. definitely wouldn't advise using it with ID you have though.

That’s great thanks! What do most people use instead of an ID, a Petzl Rig?

[Steve Bullman]

Well what are you doing exactly, is this recreational climbing or work? Is it specifically srt you are learning?

[dsmith1974]

Well what are you doing exactly, is this recreational climbing or work? Is it specifically srt you are learning?

Purely recreation for fun and exercise. Yes SRT/RAD. Basically following Patrick’s video.

[Steve Bullman]

Very outdated technique from a time where very few arborists actually used srt for tree climbing. Loads of better options out there these days. Check out rope wrench topics, theres a ton here. Or Petzls other device 

Petzl Chicane & Zigzag Bundle - Climbing Equipment from Gustharts UK

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[dsmith1974]

Very interesting! Thank you Steve.

[Paddy1000111]

Sell the ID and invest in a zigzag or a self tending hitch kit like https://www.gustharts.com/climbing-equipment-c1/friction-cord-slings-c22/kit-assembly-c262/hitch-climber-kit-p1097

 

you can set them up in srt/ddrt. Although for srt you will need a rope wrench or a chicane or rope wrench with the zigzag. I would suggest you start with it in ddrt and progress to srt as using srt in tree work is far more complicated. Really easy to get up and down but far more difficult to get around. 

[Retired Climber]

Don't over complicate it. Get yourself a couple of Prussic loops and work out how to get yourself up to the top anchor, and then around the tree. Once you can do it with a length of rope and a couple of loops you can start to use shiny kit to make it easier. 

[AHPP]

srt in tree work is far more complicated. Really easy to get up and down but far more difficult to get around. 

It definitely isn’t.