RAMS for crane removal

[Treetom15]

As the title suggests, I’m looking for advice as to exactly what I need to have in place for an upcoming job. I’ve done crane work before but always for a company as an employee or a subby. Basically I want to make sure I am all properly above board as the job is in a built up area. I am properly insured (Tree Surgeon Insurance Services) but I want to make sure paperwork is all up to scratch. I’m aware I will need a generic RA for tree works, a site specific RA on the day and a method statement for works. I’m basically after advice from people who’ve done this before, and anyone who can point me towards some templates (I’ve found the method statement one on the AA website?) 

Any help would be much appreciated!

Tom 

[htb]

Ask your crane company what they req, assuming its contract lift and they are doing their side of the papertrail.

[dumper]

What type of lift , Contract or hire?

[Treetom15]

I’m employing the driver and machine for 1 day, so a contract lift I think? As I said, I haven’t organised something like this before, it’s usually a case of just show up and do as you’re told haha!

[Treetom15]

  On 23/02/2020 at 20:14, htb said:

Ask your crane company what they req, assuming its contract lift and they are doing their side of the papertrail.

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Good point, thanks for that! Will have a chat with him tomorrow, he does a lot of crane work for the arb guys in my area so he will know the score 

[monkeybusiness]

  On 23/02/2020 at 22:25, Treetom15 said:

I’m employing the driver and machine for 1 day, so a contract lift I think? As I said, I haven’t organised something like this before, it’s usually a case of just show up and do as you’re told haha!

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That’s not a contract lift, that’s crane hire by the sounds of it. If things go wrong it will be on your head/insurance. You need to book a contract lift - this leaves the lift-plan and insurance to the crane firm. They then plan the whole job - size of crane required, crane positioning, worksite layout, ground pressure/pad size, weight of pieces to be removed (maximum), signaller etc etc. 

It is very important from an insurance point of view to get this clarified before you start though...

[dumper]

Check your insurance if it’s hire and things go wrong it will get very expensive, hire you will need appointed person signaller etc, have you done your ground survey services voids etc?

[Treetom15]

  On 23/02/2020 at 23:56, monkeybusiness said:

That’s not a contract lift, that’s crane hire by the sounds of it. If things go wrong it will be on your head/insurance. You need to book a contract lift - this leaves the lift-plan and insurance to the crane firm. They then plan the whole job - size of crane required, crane positioning, worksite layout, ground pressure/pad size, weight of pieces to be removed (maximum), signaller etc etc. 

It is very important from an insurance point of view to get this clarified before you start though...

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I will speak to the operator tomorrow and clarify this, as you said if it is a hire and something was to happen I would rather have the backup of the company the crane and operator came from!

[Treetom15]

@monkeybusiness have spoken to the driver and the company, they are providing me with a quote for a hire lift and a contract lift, which will be what I book! Thanks for raising that point mate, like I said the planning of the job is not something I’ve had to do before so I’d rather get all the facts