Pollards, the forgotten art-discussion

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

move to scotland, have a house in the town and just go where you want when you want, no tresspassing up here mate:001_cool:

 

nah, cant understand them, maybe sweden, love it there

[Stephen Blair]

nah, cant understand them, maybe sweden, love it there

 

thats ok, no one would talk to you anyway:sneaky2:

[Ian Leach]

Sweden cool were about would you live

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Sweden cool were about would you live

 

i would love to go back to the outskirts of gotenburg, though my ex has moved further north now, near mountains, might go over for a visit next year, her mums half sammi, lovely country, even lovlier folk and just the very essence of nature wherever you go, awsome, i should never have come home, and should have gone with her while I had oportunity!

 

but I just love our ancients too much.

[Ian Leach]

I lived there for 4 years in orsundsbu (Spelling ??), it's about 45mins from upsala beautiful place.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

It is a cracking country, they seem to have a good sytem too.

[skyhuck]

Hama, is it not the case that trees have evolved to pollard after major failure in order to survive, the ones that could not would produce less seed and in time the ones able to pollard are more successful.

 

So really pollarding if a survival strategy.

 

I don't see how you can argue that fungus making the tree hollow meaning it fails and has to polard to survive, is a GOOD thing for the tree??

[tommer9]

Haha I think you boys are are talking crack, regarding land, planning, and caravan licensing, I have first hand experience in being evicted from your own land, my father was evicted from a yard, and it cost us thousands of £'s

 

I have friends fighting an eviction now, it just drags on and on, costing them in health and money!

 

Been there done that many a time Lee. Maybe there are more of us out there than one would think....

[combined tree services]

i guess that it is all down to how good your understanding is of pollarding , take for instance some of the stree trees that have been pollarded down here in west cornwall by the council - trees that have been lopped to mimmic a pollard . Then take a look at some of the orrigionall pollards over in france that have been well maintained and are part of a roling cycle of works . Personally i thing that the term pollarding has been and still is used to describe a poor practice that is carried out by tree cutters that dont actually know what they are doing or talking about , but having said that i have also seen some true pollards that have been carried out and can see the benefit's of trees propperly mannaged as a pollard .

 

now i will climb down off of my christmad day soap box lol

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Hama, is it not the case that trees have evolved to pollard after major failure in order to survive, the ones that could not would produce less seed and in time the ones able to pollard are more successful.

 

So really pollarding if a survival strategy.

 

I don't see how you can argue that fungus making the tree hollow meaning it fails and has to polard to survive, is a GOOD thing for the tree??

 

Blimey sky thats a long reply for you aint it!

 

your first point is a goodun, and i see where your coming from. Everything in life is finite, we all grow old, although at various times and durations. trees are no exception, they too suffer from old age and physical limitations. my point is that they have co evolved strategies, that thier evolution is dual, with fungi, from the very begining. in other words, they havent evolved uninfluenced as a single unit. the tree and fungi are so entwined and have been for ever and ever, alan rayner suggests that if you was to take a tree and was able to totaly eliminate, as it stands all biological material of the tree you would be left with the same outline in ghostly mycological relief, due to the fact that fungi are so, colonised within its system they effectivley are the tree.

 

There is a limit to how big how tall and how heavey one can grow as a tree, genetics, biotic forces and nutrient avaliability within reach of your also limited root explorations.

 

without fungi, the tree would not have the facilities to go on indefinatley, retrenchment would not be as feasable and the biotic forces of nature woukd bring about the end of a tree far sooner than is cleary the case.

 

So fungi, in so many ways, even some of the supposedly major decayers are in fact not only assiting the tree but giving it the potential of eternal life, which from the fungis point of view has considerable benifits!

 

"if you give me food and shelter, i will give you imortality and in turn also have eternal life"

 

it is a very benificial and mutualy rewarding situation.