Climbing under supervision

[TommyW]

Can any trainers / assessors give a definitive answer on whether un-certificated staff are allowed to undertake aerial work under direct supervision of certified & experienced staff? I have not heard of this before, but I saw it mentioned on a training company's website - and it stated it  was a "legal" and acceptable way for new staff to get experience & time off the ground.

Any clarification / caution of grey areas much appreciated - thanks

 

[Jcarbor]

Yes they can.

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

As Jim said...BUT it must be 'direct' supervision, not cursory!

[stihlmadasever]

Yip,2 climbers,1 trainee,1 experienced

[Jcarbor]

We have diploma students come out for work based training, you must be with them all the time, never get too relaxed and leave them on their own, also never ask them to do anything beyond their comfort zone.

[benedmonds]

5 hours ago, stihlmadasever said:

Yip,2 climbers,1 trainee,1 experienced

Is that 2 climbers, 1 experienced and 1 trainee. Or 2 climbers and the trainee.

If it is 1 climber and trainee and both are climbing you will need someone capable of aerial rescue to rescue the experienced climber if required....  But I guess it is OK if the experienced climber is just supervising and not actually climbing..

Edited March 20, 2019 by benedmonds

[stihlmadasever]

1 trainee climber

1 experienced climber

1+ 1= 2

Did you really ask me that when i said that in my first post?

[Mark J]

53 minutes ago, benedmonds said:

Is that 2 climbers, 1 experienced and 1 trainee. Or 2 climbers and the trainee.

If it is 1 climber and trainee and both are climbing you will need someone capable of aerial rescue to rescue the experienced climber if required....  But I guess it is OK if the experienced climber is just supervising and not actually climbing..

Climb trees and perform arerial rescue used to be a pre-requisite for CS39. Regardless, I wouldn't let an inexperienced climber use a saw in the tree if they couldn't rescue a)themselves or b) someone else. 
Is there a need for seperate aerial rescue if two climbers are in the tree?

[benedmonds]

59 minutes ago, stihlmadasever said:

1 trainee climber

1 experienced climber

1+ 1= 2

Did you really ask me that when i said that in my first post?

Quote

2 climbers,1 trainee,1 experienced

  is ambiguous. It could have been read 2 climbers + 1 trainee.. 2+1=3 

[stihlmadasever]

1 hour ago, benedmonds said:

  is ambiguous. It could have been read 2 climbers + 1 trainee.. 2+1=3 

But its not and it isnt.

How can 2 climbers,1 trainee

1 experienced be interpreted as 3?

2 or maybe even 4 i could see

but 3??

 

 

Edited March 20, 2019 by stihlmadasever