Climate change anyone?

[the village idiot]

2 hours ago, Yorkshire Brummie said:

I’ve followed this thread right through. I would say I’m sensitive to climate change most definitely and having spent the majority of my life outside feel in touch with seasons, their variations, but winters followed by summers of 2018 do worry me. I’m definitely not an academic but have enjoyed George Monboit’s book Feral and some of his other work, but although he gives lots of verified scientific facts some of his extreme “panic stations” ramblings also leave me scratching my head.
In a nutshell (tying up what some of you are saying... I think) are we saying in a Brian Cox sort of way, that what’s happening to the planet now is so microscopic in comparison to the lifetime of the earth, it’s just a “bump in the road” however destructive to mankind it maybe?
If science is fact, so therefore some bad stuff looks like it may possibly happen to our not so far off generations, what can we take from philosophical answers been given on this thread. To the layman (me) does it just mean you are putting the scientific answers in context of the bigger picture ( millions of years )?
Hope my ramblings make sense?!..
Cheers folks
Ian

Nice post Ian.

 

As I see it, what matters is suffering.

 

The suffering of any concious creature that is capable of it.

 

The current predicament could certainly just be viewed as a blip in geological time but that is kind of besides the point because we have the opportunity to alleviate suffering now and in the future.

 

In a way, it doesn't really matter if global warming isn't human caused.

The crux of the matter is that the climate is changing in a manner that is going to cause an immense amount of suffering to concious creatures, particularly humans, and we are in a position to do something about that. If we choose to.

 

The idea put forward by Hairychest that we are on a pre-ordained path is dangerous. It cannot be adequately substantiated and it serves as a disturbing justification for glossing over needless suffering.

 

 

 

Edited March 11, 2019 by the village idiot

[TIMON]

I presume you don't really mean "scientologists".[emoji846]

“What level Thetan would you consider yourself VI ??”


http://listverse.com/2007/07/28/top-8-levels-of-scientology/

[Haironyourchest]

4 minutes ago, the village idiot said:

Nice post Ian.

 

As I see it, what matters is suffering.

 

The suffering of any concious creature that is capable of it.

 

The current predicament could certainly just be viewed as a blip in geological time but that is kind of besides the point because we have the opportunity to alleviate suffering now and in the future.

 

In a way, it doesn't really matter if global warming isn't human caused.

The crux of the matter is that the climate is changing in a manner that is going to cause an immense amount of suffering to conciousness creatures, particularly humans, and we are in a position to do something about that. If we choose to.

 

The idea put forward by Hairychest that we are on a pre-ordained path is dangerous. It cannot be adequately substantiated and it serves as a disturbing justification for glossing over needless suffering.

 

 

What do you propose we do about the suffering?

 

[the village idiot]

8 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

What do you propose we do about the suffering?

 

Limit it, to the best of our collective ability.

[Yorkshire Brummie]

Nice post Ian.
 
As I see it, what matters is suffering.
 
The suffering of any concious creature that is capable of it.
 
The current predicament could certainly just be viewed as a blip in geological time but that is kind of besides the point because we have the opportunity to alleviate suffering now and in the future.
 
In a way, it doesn't really matter if global warming isn't human caused.
The crux of the matter is that the climate is changing in a manner that is going to cause an immense amount of suffering to conciousness creatures, particularly humans, and we are in a position to do something about that. If we choose to.
 
The idea put forward by Hairychest that we are on a pre-ordained path is dangerous. It cannot be adequately substantiated and it serves as a disturbing justification for glossing over needless suffering.
 
 
 

Thank you VI for explaining [emoji106]
I feel like I may have used the word empathy a lot recently. To my wife, colleagues, anyone who’s listening or not [emoji850]..... or what I feel is that there seems to be a lack of it in general amongst many folk.
So regardless of time in space etc. and regardless of who or what has caused planet warming, we owe our fellow man/woman kind albeit 500 years in the future to do what we really can now. A bit like leaving some milk in the fridge for everyone else if you are first down for breakfast.....(ish)
Cheers
I

[the village idiot]

2 minutes ago, Yorkshire Brummie said:

Thank you VI for explaining 

It is only my personal take on it Ian.

 

Really like the milk in the fridge analogy.?

[the village idiot]

20 minutes ago, TIMON said:

 

“What level Thetan would you consider yourself VI ??”


http://listverse.com/2007/07/28/top-8-levels-of-scientology/

 

?

 

That's a bit like asking a Vegan to pick his favourite cut of meat.

[Haironyourchest]

14 minutes ago, the village idiot said:

Limit it, to the best of our collective ability.

Oh come on now, that's like something a politician would say. Give me some specific solutions - and solutions that don't just shift the suffering onto someone else, like wealth distribution. 

[skyhuck]

1 hour ago, the village idiot said:

In a way, it doesn't really matter if global warming isn't human caused. and we are in a position to do something about that. If we choose to.

 

 

 

 

 

If global warming isn't human caused, how can we possibly be in a position to do any thing about it?

[the village idiot]

1 minute ago, skyhuck said:

If global warming isn't human caused, how can we possibly be in a position to do any thing about it?

Remove CO2 from the atmosphere.