Jump to content
the village idiot

Climate change anyone?

Recommended Posts

14 minutes ago, the village idiot said:

Limit it, to the best of our collective ability.

Oh come on now, that's like something a politician would say. Give me some specific solutions - and solutions that don't just shift the suffering onto someone else, like wealth distribution. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, the village idiot said:

In a way, it doesn't really matter if global warming isn't human caused. and we are in a position to do something about that. If we choose to.

 

 

 

 

 

If global warming isn't human caused, how can we possibly be in a position to do any thing about it?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, the village idiot said:

Remove CO2 from the atmosphere.

Thats if its defiantly CO2 and not increased sun activity.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

Oh come on now, that's like something a politician would say. Give me some specific solutions - and solutions that don't just shift the suffering onto someone else, like wealth distribution. 

Look up 'effects of rising global temperatures on human civilisation'.

Death, Flooding, Mass migration, food shortage, freshwater shortage, forest fires, hurricanes etc etc.

 

Suffering.

 

Reduced temperature increase, reduced suffering.

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, the village idiot said:

Look up 'effects of rising global temperatures on human civilisation'.

Death, Flooding, Mass migration, food shortage, freshwater shortage, forest fires, hurricanes etc etc.

 

Suffering.

 

Reduced temperature increase, reduced suffering.

 

Ok, but we cant reduce the temperature without going carbon zero, and crashing our economies. The only way to avoid mass starvation in a global economic collapse would be global communism = more suffering. Either way, you can't avoid the suffering. Thats assuming your climate model prediction are correct. If they are incorrect, then you would be trading the most abundant and free period in human history for global communism - "just in case"

The third option is let all the peoples of the world experience economic freedom in their lifetime in the 21st century, and let the chips fall where they may. If climate catastrophe happens, then we work and build our way out of it with hive cities, floating cities, whatever. If it doesn't happen, then we embark on the golden age. If its a bit of both, then we just roll with the punches, like we've always done.

If someone can figure out a practical way to sequester CO2 that doesn't cost three times the GDP of Earth, then I'm all for it, why not? It's not like future generations can't produce all the CO2 the earth needs by vaporising limestone with solar energy as and when the atmosphere needs a top-up.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

Ok, but we cant reduce the temperature without going carbon zero, and crashing our economies.

There are lots of ways to 'fix' carbon out of the atmosphere. Some of which would improve economies if pursued sensibly.

 

There is no reason in theory why we couldn't fix more carbon out of the atmosphere than we put in. We just need a wealthy country or countries to grab the bull by the horns.

 

Obviously the less carbon we put into the atmosphere the less extensive the remedies have to be.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, the village idiot said:

There are lots of ways to 'fix' carbon out of the atmosphere. Some of which would improve economies if pursued sensibly.

 

There is no reason in theory why we couldn't fix more carbon out of the atmosphere than we put in. We just need a wealthy country or countries to grab the bull by the horns.

 

Obviously the less carbon we put into the atmosphere the less extensive the remedies have to be.

examples?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Featured Adverts

About

Arbtalk.co.uk is a hub for the arboriculture industry in the UK.  
If you're just starting out and you need business, equipment, tech or training support you're in the right place.  If you've done it, made it, got a van load of oily t-shirts and have decided to give something back by sharing your knowledge or wisdom,  then you're welcome too.
If you would like to contribute to making this industry more effective and safe then welcome.
Just like a living tree, it'll always be a work in progress.
Please have a look around, sign up, share and contribute the best you have.

See you inside.

The Arbtalk Team

Follow us

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.