Hardcore

[niftysteve]

Having just moved my woodpile to a new site on the farm,I've discovered that I've managed to pick the boggiest spot,unforseen rabbit development ! already stacked several cord to season and got alot more to add - so I thought about adding a strip of hardcore to make life easier.

 

Looking to put in a strip of 4m x 30m - so thinking of about 30tons of clean hardcore - not crossing the planning bridge quite yet,it's got to take a landrover and 2 ton Ifor at times

 

How would you go about this,dig out and infill - with or without membrane or just plonk it on top and compact down to where I want it,personally thinking this may be best,leaving the harcore level just below that top of the pallet that the woods stacked on.

 

Cheers

Steve

i would get hold of a roll of TERAM and put this below your hardcore this will stop it from sinking into the soil beneath but also let the water drain through it. you can get this in a roll 4 m wide

[Saw-sick Steve]

I'd go for a membrane like 'Terram' or similar, laid right over the lot. Then planings if you can get them or a sub-base like '803'. You'll then have a slightly raised road that will keep you clear of all the shite, I've no experience of using crushed brick, but the membrane is essential IMO - otherwise you can spend a huge amount of time and money watching stone disappear into the chocolate swamp.

[smiles]

Is TERRAM the thick white (ish) one - seem to remember someone doing "reclaimed" stuff on Ebay - could be cost efffective,bit better than the very thin black stuff!

 

The only sub base I've used before is type 1 MOT,pink and sticky,is "803" dry and permeable?

[Saw-sick Steve]

Great minds and all that.

Why can't I edit my posts?

[niftysteve]

Is TERRAM the thick white (ish) one - seem to remember someone doing "reclaimed" stuff on Ebay - could be cost efffective,bit better than the very thin black stuff!

 

The only sub base I've used before is type 1 MOT,pink and sticky,is "803" dry and permeable?

 

thick white terram is mch better than the thinner horticultural membrane

we use recycled track ballast for a sub base its just second hand type 1 much cheaper too

[Saw-sick Steve]

Is TERRAM the thick white (ish) one - seem to remember someone doing "reclaimed" stuff on Ebay - could be cost efffective,bit better than the very thin black stuff!

 

The only sub base I've used before is type 1 MOT,pink and sticky,is "803" dry and permeable?

 

'Terram' is the thin black stuff, but don't be put off by that, all it has to do is stop the 'fines' rising to the surface under compaction - and bleddy effective it is too. Have run tractors, dumpers, etc. on really boggy ground on top of this stuff. My mate who does pipeline work uses it for access roads.When finished, its rolled up and removed. The'' thick white one'' sounds more like horticultural fleece, though there are loads of fabrics on the market now.

[Saw-sick Steve]

thick white terram is mch better than the thinner horticultural membrane

we use recycled track ballast for a sub base its just second hand type 1 much cheaper too

 

The horticultural grade stuff is really thin, you can rip it with yer bare hands!

The 4m Terram we use is always the black stuff, its thin and easier to unroll and manhandle, but you wouldn't call it flimsy.

[76AR]

I would advise you to either use dot type 1 (clean crusher run) or dot type 2 (demolition waste). I would strip off approx 150mm of the top surface and lay terram, lay the hardcore and compact in 50mm layers.

 

if you dont get a clean run the hardcore has a tendancy to turn to mush due to the dust content.

[niftysteve]

'Terram' is the thin black stuff, but don't be put off by that, all it has to do is stop the 'fines' rising to the surface under compaction - and bleddy effective it is too. Have run tractors, dumpers, etc. on really boggy ground on top of this stuff. My mate who does pipeline work uses it for access roads.When finished, its rolled up and removed. The'' thick white one'' sounds more like horticultural fleece, though there are loads of fabrics on the market now.

 

the thick white teram is the stuff they use on the motor way s . the black that i have seen is called landscaping fabric

[robbo 110]

steve, be a bit careful here, any road will need planning, if your out the way of people who like to complain then you may get away with it, if its land you will be on for along time then try & get some big hardcore down deep before moving on to crushed stone, im unsure of your exact area but theres a skip firm south of nutley, just before maresfield bypass that should be able to supply you with some big stuff, failing that send me a mssg, i work for several skip firms a bit further up the a22, the ground is very wet too be doing any thing with at the mo but terram and small stone will work out very expensive, dont go paying much for bulky hardcore, you may be asked to cover the haulage thats all thou!! feel free to shout if you need any help, cheers