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Professional Tree Inspection Course - What's the point?

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Afternoon

 

Wondering if anyone has any info on the benefits of taking the Professional Tree Inspectors Course? 

 

I took the course many years ago and really enjoyed it and have recommended it to all I meet who are considering it.  However I now have a team of my own who I would like to send on it for their benefit but I now have to put a business case together to justify the expenditure for 4 members of staff.  My staff already have level 4 arb qualifications or higher and have plenty of arb experience to back it up.

 

So will the Professional Tree Inspection Course trump their existing knowledge?

Will the company's insurance improve if they take the course?

What is actually gained from a company's point of view or is it purely individual professional 'glory'?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Craig

 

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I can appreciate the benefit of having the qual in the company tool box, and since you've already got it, maybe send 1 additional staff member rather than 4 and consider a re-fresher for yourself?  I'm not sure 1 would necessarily trump another (PTI v Lv 4) but they would certainly complement each other and a refresher would be valuable CPD - easy to justify for business case..   Why do you have to do a business case?  Is it your own business or are you seeking external funding support?

 

 

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1 hour ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

I can appreciate the benefit of having the qual in the company tool box, and since you've already got it, maybe send 1 additional staff member rather than 4 and consider a re-fresher for yourself?  I'm not sure 1 would necessarily trump another (PTI v Lv 4) but they would certainly complement each other and a refresher would be valuable CPD - easy to justify for business case..   Why do you have to do a business case?  Is it your own business or are you seeking external funding support?

 

 

Local government so every penny now has to be scrutinised.  But we need to be developing our staff to

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6 hours ago, Craig McCrindle said:

Local government so every penny now has to be scrutinised.  But we need to be developing our staff to

Ah, understood, I presumed it was a private company.  Maybe refresh the existing qual and add 1 or 2 new qual's so that there is flexibility and availability within the overall team would be easier to justify than 4 new qual's?

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If there is not a need for a pti for each of the 4 candidates how about organising a bespoke course to cover things you guys find enjoyable/ don't do often. My old boss took us on a day course of conifer ident. We were just tree surgeons.

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26 minutes ago, Ian Clarke said:

If there is not a need for a pti for each of the 4 candidates how about organising a bespoke course to cover things you guys find enjoyable/ don't do often. My old boss took us on a day course of conifer ident. We were just tree surgeons.

I'd class that as a punishment! Hate Conny ID 😫

 

But a good idea - no point doing the stuff you enjoy all the time, never learn anything new.

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Well, unless yr gonna sub the tree survey out - it's a three day course fr tech arb,  so really a no brained to say yr staff are all up to scratch. LA will want that. K

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Afternoon
 
Wondering if anyone has any info on the benefits of taking the Professional Tree Inspectors Course? 
 
I took the course many years ago and really enjoyed it and have recommended it to all I meet who are considering it.  However I now have a team of my own who I would like to send on it for their benefit but I now have to put a business case together to justify the expenditure for 4 members of staff.  My staff already have level 4 arb qualifications or higher and have plenty of arb experience to back it up.
 
So will the Professional Tree Inspection Course trump their existing knowledge?
Will the company's insurance improve if they take the course?
What is actually gained from a company's point of view or is it purely individual professional 'glory'?
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Craig
 

Craig, its well worth doing some sort of tree inspection course if you run an arb outfit
A its good CPD.
B it covers your back a bit if you should ever end up in court, take for example Cavanagher vs Whitney parish council or poll vs Asquith viscount Morley 2006, in both of these cases the standard of tree inspection came in to question.
It also helps expands your knowledge of tree diseases decay and pathways for management strategies.
I did QTRA a few years back, I’m not still licensed to use the format but i do apply elements of it in my tree surveys. As a company as a whole tree surveys often lead to future work for us, yet we always give the client the option of using another contractor to do the resulting works.

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Is it worth it, only you can decide that Craig. However, it seems to me that whatever system you use, THREATS, PTI, VALID, QTRA, they all have somethings in common; they provide a systematic approach, they make you think, and most importantly make you justify your decision. And the last point is key to any process. Undertaking relevant CPD, e.g. something on VTA, fungi or branch  attachments, to support their experience and qualifications would be just as valuable, just so long as you can justify your decision.

 

That the level of inspection is questioned when things arrive in Court is only to be expected. Courts are adversarial, it's how they work. You will always get one side saying their inspection was adequate and the other saying oh no it wasn't. But if you have a system, and reasoned justification, then you're well on the way.

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