Two rope technique on a fir tree

[Marc Lewis]

Strangely there’s a thread on another site about the dangers of leaving lines in a tree for a period of time. 
 
Talk of rodent damage and the like.

That has always been a worry of mine.

[Mark_Skyland]

I think I would be using a wire anchor of some sort of you are leaving it up there for any length of time.

 

There must be some branches above where you intend to anchor?

 

[WildClimbing]

Thanks all for the advice.

 

So, going with the tape sling double wrapped and girth hitch with a maillon rapide.

 

Obviously one rope forms my "two" ropes - primary, safety. Is it ok to attach the rope to the anchor point with an alpine knot. Or what is a better method?

 

Problem here is I can't take them down. Is there a way to safely rig this so I can get them down from the ground ? Obviously they need to be fixed in position somehow so i can actually climb up...

Edited November 27, 2018 by WildClimbing

[Steve Bullman]

4 minutes ago, WildClimbing said:

Obviously one rope forms my "two" ropes - primary, safety. Is it ok to attach the rope to the anchor point with an alpine knot. Or what is a better method?

Are you attaching the 1 rope midline to the anchor point then using the 2 legs for your lifelines?  Yes an alpine would work fine.

[WildClimbing]

Just now, Steve Bullman said:

Are you attaching the 1 rope midline to the anchor point then using the 2 legs for your lifelines?  Yes an alpine would work fine.

This is how I would assume, but I can't take the ropes down each day.

 

I'm wondering if there is a better way. Like using a knot that won't pass through the maillon, so I have just one leg. But then setting up two anchors so I use my two ropes like that.

[Steve Bullman]

6 minutes ago, WildClimbing said:

 

 

Problem here is I can't take them down. Is there a way to safely rig this so I can get them down from the ground ? Obviously they need to be fixed in position somehow so i can actually climb up...

Not with the tape sling girth hitched.  You'd need to look into a different set up entirely, and probably would need to use 2 separate lines

[WildClimbing]

Just now, Steve Bullman said:

Not with the tape sling girth hitched.  You'd need to look into a different set up entirely, and probably would need to use 2 separate lines

I'm happy to leave the tape sling up, but I want to be able to swap out the ropes for a throw-line each night.

[Steve Bullman]

1 minute ago, WildClimbing said:

This is how I would assume, but I can't take the ropes down each day.

In the past I have put a ladder up a tree, and coiled the rope up so its not reachable from the ground.  Someone determined enough would still get at it but ht will put off the casual thief

[WildClimbing]

Just now, Steve Bullman said:

In the past I have put a ladder up a tree, and coiled the rope up so its not reachable from the ground.  Someone determined enough would still get at it but ht will put off the casual thief

I’m worried about squirrels eating the ropes.

[WildClimbing]

2 minutes ago, Steve Bullman said:

In the past I have put a ladder up a tree, and coiled the rope up so its not reachable from the ground.  Someone determined enough would still get at it but ht will put off the casual thief

I suppose I could run the rope through the maillon and anchor onto a nearby tree? But this doubles the load put onto the maillon right?

Edited November 27, 2018 by WildClimbing