Another tree ident please. Sumac?

[shillo]

roughly how old do you think steve?

[se7enthdevil]

9 hours ago, shillo said:

roughly how old do you think steve?

it was only about 50 years old which fits for the fast rate of growth for the species.

 

i'll have a good count of one of the slabs when i get a chance but i've been busy trying to process a couple of the logs.

[se7enthdevil]

damn this is good looking stuff.

 

cored one lot of bowls to see how it dries. 10", 6" and 4" i think.

 

 

[Treerover]

this timber is bloody gorgeous...

 

 

i've seen no evidence yet to dissuade me from the fact that it is what Arctostaphylos uva-ursi's guessed as Pistacia chinensis.

 

Pistacia has very slightly alternate pinnate leaves which your does not seem to have.

Also it appears that your leaf picture shows a terminal leaf which Pistacia misses (Although it could be a radial leaf bent upwards)

Pistacia has more pairs of leaves (over 10 pairs)

That’s my thoughts anyhoobs

 

 

[se7enthdevil]

1 hour ago, Treerover said:

 

Pistacia has very slightly alternate pinnate leaves which your does not seem to have.

Also it appears that your leaf picture shows a terminal leaf which Pistacia misses (Although it could be a radial leaf bent upwards)

Pistacia has more pairs of leaves (over 10 pairs)

That’s my thoughts anyhoobs

 

 

according to a book i have on plant resources of south east asia PROSEA it can have 3-12 pairs of leaflets and that is a bent up leaf rather than a terminal leaf but the terminal leaf is not always absent.

[se7enthdevil]

Well i wasn't expecting that.

 

putting timber under UV lighting can really aid timber identification and the green i sort of knew about as lots in the anacardiaceae glow quite nicely but dark blue sapwood was not one i've heard of before.

[Treerover]

according to a book i have on plant resources of south east asia PROSEA it can have 3-12 pairs of leaflets and that is a bent up leaf rather than a terminal leaf but the terminal leaf is not always absent.

 

Ok, but the leaves are opposite and not slightly staggered , and also very different in shape ? And your leaves have quite a lot less veins ?

[se7enthdevil]

12 hours ago, Treerover said:

 

Ok, but the leaves are opposite and not slightly staggered , and also very different in shape ? And your leaves have quite a lot less veins ?

it seems they can be both.

this link has a picture of autumn leaves that show a leaf that is slightly staggered and one next to it that is almost perfectly opposite.

https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/pistacia_chinensis.htm

the twig and leaf buds are the same too.

 

the timber i have received from this tree has also been positively identified by three individuals as Pistacia chinensis too.

 

 

[nepia]

Those bowls are awesome Steve and only rough turned; be sure to put up pics when they're finished.

You must be chuffed to have acquired that timber.  

[se7enthdevil]

41 minutes ago, nepia said:

Those bowls are awesome Steve and only rough turned; be sure to put up pics when they're finished.

You must be chuffed to have acquired that timber.  

very chuffed mate. i thank both you and shilo for helping me obtain it...

 

the bowls have gone a bit pale as it starts to dry but the colour should return once oiled.

 

very dense timber too. the only record i can find for P. chinensis states that it should be 990kgm3 at 15% mc which is around 62lbft3. i've a sample on the radiator as we speak to see what it weighs once dry.