SRT vs DDrt comparison table

[Khriss]

Actually there is a minimum weight to use that device , abt 10 stone , and on 13mm , it just don't work properly at my weight , SRT use, hence thinner rope K

[carlos]

On 12/08/2018 at 14:15, Island Lescure said:

Hello from India,

I have not been keeping track of what the two systems are now called but I am sure you can figure it out. We call them dynamic and static rope techniques.

 

I have made this table for our climbing students to help them decide which system will help them for their tree climbing tasks. Do you have anything else to add to it? If not, I hope the table helps you see the differences between the climbing systems.

 

Cheers,

 

Island

 

SRT	DdRT
Faster & easier to install (if using base tie)	Less gear required
Faster to move up on	Simpler rope management
No friction through crotches because rope is static	Easier to move up short distances (no additional gear required
No cambium saver, less chance of getting stuck, throw line snapping etc	Added friction when passing over crotches, redirects or any other branch union
No branch isolation required (if using base tie)	You have to retrace your route through the tree when coming down, otherwise the system will not be retrievable due to too much friction
Pantin, knee ascender, hitchhiker or other friction device, more gear intensive (expensive and more gear to inspect)	Easier to free climb a tree or advance up main anchor
Comparatively new, globally less recognised, ISA only slowly integrating SRT (safety regulations)	Easier to limb walk
Can tie main anchor in to a smooth vertical stem

id say that table is pretty accurate.

if i was teaching people id probably start them on drt then introduce srt, they both have pluses and minus .

carl

[Island Lescure]

19 hours ago, carlos said:

id say that table is pretty accurate.

if i was teaching people id probably start them on drt then introduce srt, they both have pluses and minus .

carl

Ya we teach both. To give people more perspective but also because ddrt is still more widely accepted. We climb on srt though.

[MattyF]

 

srt rules the day with free climbing or spiking , the slack if your system if it is setup  right should  just fall through and all progress is captured instantly, 

limb walking is easier once you have gotten over that there is no friction, imo it’s kind of like learning to use a rope guide after years of not and being used to heavy friction holding your weight.. you don’t like it but soon it becomes apparent life is easier....

SRT jumps and swings easier , no friction and one point of contact makes monovering the canopy a beeeze... I honestly believe comp climbing will now go off to a different level. 

[carlos]

ive been dabbling in srt since the first rope wrench came out but a lot of our trees are small so i often opted for drt and then didnt feel familiar with srt when i did do a big tree so i bit the bullet and bought a bulldog bone with the hope of moving over to srt for most stuff.

i havent used it much but it seems like a very good bit of kit that is very predictable in use, it didnt like pine sap but who or what does?!!!

does eat my gloves a lot which is a pain but i guess i just need to modify my grip on the thing.

i have a lot of respect for the innovators within the industry, the amount of time and effort they save us on a daily basis is brilliant, thanks.

carl

[stihlmadasever]

I really dont see srt as the god send method as some make it out to be.

Granted im still at the "fannying around" stage and as such no expert, but ive climbed srt enough to realise its merits just as ddrt has its uses and merits.

Too each his own.

Didnt even look at that table as i dont really care...??

Not sorry ,its saturday and ive had a few