standing timber price. Price per cube roadside.

[Root and branch sw]

Hi. I've just been asked to fell approx 250 cube of mixed hardwood.  Paying the landowner £15 a cube extracted. 

So my outlay £4000. Plus my time felling extraction labour, Ware and tare ECT. 

So let's say £450 a day. 

So rd side 250 cube @ £45  = £11.250. 

20 days labour is £9000. The maths don't add up. I will stick to tree surgery I think. How do you forestry boys keep ya heads above water. Hand cutting. Defo not. Or are my figures well out. 

[Squaredy]

And this is the reason that so many small landowners do not manage their woodlands for timber.  Value of the timber is less than felling and extraction cost.  I think it is different for the guys doing it on a big scale and bringing in harvesters and forwarders of course, as they will fell and extract perhaps 1500 cube in those 20 days.  

[Root and branch sw]

The last job I did extraction I was getting  £12 per tonne on the landing.  Due to ground conditions I got 4 6t loads a day. That didn't add up either.  

 

[spuddog0507]

1 hour ago, Root and branch sw said:

Hi. I've just been asked to fell approx 250 cube of mixed hardwood.  Paying the landowner £15 a cube extracted. 

So my outlay £4000. Plus my time felling extraction labour, Ware and tare ECT. 

So let's say £450 a day. 

So rd side 250 cube @ £45  = £11.250. 

20 days labour is £9000. The maths don't add up. I will stick to tree surgery I think. How do you forestry boys keep ya heads above water. Hand cutting. Defo not. Or are my figures well out. 

£15 cube extracted ? You felling and extracting it with your kit ? .is it a clear fell or thinings and what is £450 a day for I.e how many men and machines ? £15 a cube is bang on the mark for hardwood and you should be able to make money out of it at that .

[Root and branch sw]

Hi. Yeah that's extracted.  It's thinning. 

3 men. Tractor, timber trailer. 2 men felling plus mini digger with grab to make some timber excessable.  

Distance to landing 450 yards. Fair level land but very wet. 

[Woodworks]

Be interested in a load or two if you do take on the job 

[Root and branch sw]

15 minutes ago, Woodworks said:

Be interested in a load or two if you do take on the job 

Where you based? Haulage might be steep in price if you are to far. 

We have first refusal on the job so I need to get my head around it plus line up buyer's.  

[spuddog0507]

20 minutes ago, Root and branch sw said:

Hi. Yeah that's extracted.  It's thinning. 

3 men. Tractor, timber trailer. 2 men felling plus mini digger with grab to make some timber excessable.  

Distance to landing 450 yards. Fair level land but very wet. 

Thinings are a bit harder than clear fells , you have the kit to do the job ,we have just got a 180-200 tonne clear fell job been told its just firewood so bid £12 a tonne at it but its mainly beech and descent trees 500-750 dbh which ain't firewood to me its furniture timber which doubles are money so a little different also got a small thinking job for back end of year but only about 30 tonnish. If its your first job at this game do it you will learn as you go along. Wet that's the vain of my life at present and with forecast over night up here probably up to my knees I snow tomorrow.

 

 

[Woodworks]

7 hours ago, Root and branch sw said:

Where you based? Haulage might be steep in price if you are to far. 

We have first refusal on the job so I need to get my head around it plus line up buyer's.  

Out near Tavistock. I saw you are Callington so presumed the job is relatively local. 

[Root and branch sw]

1 hour ago, Woodworks said:

Out near Tavistock. I saw you are Callington so presumed the job is relatively local. 

I will keep you posted.  It's not a million miles from you.