My splicing attempts

[kram]

I havent had any success to close up the previous splice, tried again with ratchet strap. Left it in a tub of water for a day and may try again later. I imagine I will need to cut it off and start again.

 

I got some Samson Ice Tail to try, studied the Samson docs and decided on an adjustable 52cm - 1m whoopie with a tuck bury for the fixed eye.

 

[Tommy_B]

Used Drenaline and Tachyon

[kram]

Needle snapped whilst doing a lock stitch, leaving the metal eye fragment stuck in the rope... Cut it off and will start again.

[Rich Rule]

Did you try beating the throat with a mallet to tenderise it when you are trying to bury it?

 

I find it helps quite a bit on ropes with a tight jacket.

[kram]

I did not. How do you imagine it works, this tenderising? I can imagine the shock of a mallet may rip fibres.

 

A source of decent lock stiching needles would be welcome. 

 

The Samson guides say it lock stiches should be within 1/4 fid of the entry point. , within the core bury where the cover is tightest. My Yale/HB spliced rope also has the whipping very close to the entry point.

 

YT gudes generally say, 1/3rd fid away from the eye, perhaps because its much easier outside of the core bury. How important is that?

 

[Doug Tait]

I'd imagine it works by slightly loosening the tightness created by the manufacturing process, to aid the needle point finding the path of least resistance?

 

To be honest, Rich's post reads like it comes from considerable experience, persuasive enough for me.

 

* And to be even honester, Rich's first paragraph reads like a quote from 'serial killer diaries' so best watch the tone when replying!

[Rich Rule]

13 hours ago, kram said:

I did not. How do you imagine it works, this tenderising? I can imagine the shock of a mallet may rip fibres.

 

A source of decent lock stiching needles would be welcome. 

 

The Samson guides say it lock stiches should be within 1/4 fid of the entry point. , within the core bury where the cover is tightest. My Yale/HB spliced rope also has the whipping very close to the entry point.

 

YT gudes generally say, 1/3rd fid away from the eye, perhaps because its much easier outside of the core bury. How important is that?

 

It won’t damage the rope fibre to my knowledge.

 

i used to beat the shit out of tough splices and then try to manipulate the throat of the splice and rinse and repeat till it is buried to the mark of the eye.

 

are you shock loading the splice?

 

I used to tie it off to my bench with a long sling and shock it that way until I switch to the tow hitch in my truck as I pulled the bench off the wall in my old workshop.

[kram]

The last few I havent had much problem, tie to a stump anchor and pull, massage and pull a few times.

[Tommy_B]

Hitting it with a rubber mallet will do nothing to damage the rope fibres. Bending it backwards and forwards also helps the core settle down and can make the stitching easier

[Tommy_B]

On 08/06/2024 at 11:40, kram said:

 

Used Liros Reef. I thought it was going well but I cant close it up, the throat of the splice has gone hard, so I cant milk any slack into it. I briefely tried a ratchet strap between trees, which closed it 1/2" but theres still an inch to go.

 

I used Samsons normal instructions. I see they have another page about used rope, says to soak it in water before splicing. I am guessing that would not help now.

 

Core taper looks a little bit blunt to my eye.