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1 hour ago, hplp said:

The UK is just soft :P. There is little true wilderness.

 

I remember my most humbling occasion when in outback Australia. I was dropped out in a helicopter to fix a 4x4 that had broken down and it wasnt until I had it running (always the absolute first priority before even going to the toilet!) that I sat down and realised that I was at least 100 km or 60 miles if not 150km from another living soul......

 

Im not sure if there are many other places in the world (on land anyway) that thats the case.

 

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How did the 4x4 get there then?  (and don't give us that "they drive in pairs+ melarchy"

 

I'm more inclined to believe Mr B, he was out taking a stroll to the pub and saw you!

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6 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

How did the 4x4 get there then?  (and don't give us that "they drive in pairs+ melarchy"

 

I'm more inclined to believe Mr B, he was out taking a stroll to the pub and saw you!

Haha, I was out working on a cattle station. The family I worked for had about 4 million acres.

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On 05/12/2017 at 11:14, Rough Hewn said:

Ten tors and oats walk train every weekend from January.
(when I was a kid).
Lots of the moors were heavily used the last few thousand years. It's covered in all sorts from stone circles to hundreds of miles of dry stone wall.
Cattle, sheep and other live stock cover it too.
Not to mention all the mining activities etc.
But it can be a very wild place. (Especially the weather)
Just not true wilderness anymore. ☹️

Yes I’d agree. I always say Dartmoor isn’t wilderness but it is wild country. Not really sure of the  correct term for wilderness but in my mind certainly not somewhere you can walk across in a day,

I love Dartmoor though for its desolation- on the north moor it may not have the mountains and fells of other places in the uk but I always get the feeling of solitary that I don’t feel in other national parks- generally the masses stick to honeypots and even on a busy bank holiday you can walk for hours-all day without barely seeing a soul.

just watching Ray Mears how the West was one in the Mohave desert- that’s wilderness to me, Alaska, Australia 

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