Tree ident please. Elm?

[daveindales]

Ok, I'm quite good with my tree indents usually, but this one has me a little stumped. Both sides of leaf are rough to the touch. The twig, together with the rough leaves remind me of elm, or perhaps zelcova.

 

Defiantly not Swedish whitebeam, before anyone says that.

[Graham]

Nothofagus obliqua maybe?

[Gary Prentice]

That was my thought, difficult without any sense of scale.

[daveindales]

To be honest, the bark did seem a bit 'beech like', if it is Nothofagus it's the first one I've seen in the Dales or since leaving college over 20 years ago.

[daltontrees]

Ok, I'm quite good with my tree indents usually, but this one has me a little stumped. Both sides of leaf are rough to the touch. The twig, together with the rough leaves remind me of elm, or perhaps zelcova.

 

Defiantly not Swedish whitebeam, before anyone says that.

 

I would have said Zelkova carpinifolia, especially the roughness of the leaves. I recall Nothofagus obliqua lobes are more rounded and irregular. But I don't know for sure.

[daveindales]

Taken a look at Zelkova Serrata and the leaves do look a bit like those. Still not sure though

[Andrew Gale]

I'd go with Zelkova carpinifolia too.

[se7enthdevil]

i thought zelkova when i saw them.

 

i've just identified one down my road and do think it is in that genus but not sure which one...

[RRD]

Zelkova sicula

[daltontrees]

Zelkova sicula

 

I had never heard of that one, and it does look like the pictures, but quoting from Wikipedia (which is not always right) "The only known population, found in 1991, consists of 200–250 plants growing on the Monti Iblei area, in Buccheri, in southeast Sicily near Syracuse." One of the rarest trees in the world. Wouldn't it be lovely of there was an outbreak in Yorkshire?