Thinings value

[MattyF]

Alpine on a 2 tonne igland , you could get a much better winch tbh on the tractor a remote would be very handy.

Usually cutting to 4m lengths for a botex. I mean that's a conservative figure for we are averaging on this job in hard woods and larch off a 45% bank, I'm thinking back to the last pine thinning job we had about two weeks on for 120 tonne , it could of been better but snow then ice and a melt turned it to shite ! Not what the client wanted really either.

It's ok for low impact stuff but a smaller timber trailer would be great for the alpine on the level.

[MattyF]

Best you leave your stumps lower than you ever have done before then! :-)

 

 

I'm swearing at the harvester driver right now !

[Andymacp]

I love a waist height gob

[luftwaffe]

I think you will find that you will be there for ever and and a day cutting off one tree then winching it out then snedding out and cutting it up, 24 metres a day is like me saying I can run at 120mph, max one man will do is 5 metres-day, due to the very slow system that is going to take place.

[Andymacp]

My plan was to run the winch rope to the end of the row pick up the first one then collect the rest as I winch in down the line. Picking up 20 by the end.

[Jimbo 76]

Andy,

 

The best advise to your original question I can give is try and sell the timber standing. Then you will know what product length to go for.

 

Our Botex likes 2.4 or 5 due to placement of bolsters. But last large pine job we did we sold to a client for chip and he needed 2.8. So that's what we cut. Be aware in forestry spec is really important and client may reject a whole load even due to a few mis cut.

 

Best of luck.

James.

[andy cobb]

My plan was to run the winch rope to the end of the row pick up the first one then collect the rest as I winch in down the line. Picking up 20 by the end.

 

You might find that once you get a few on the rope you struggle to steer them round the remaining trees, then you have to start un- choking them and resetting.

If you've got a double drum on the mog you could set up a haul back system which more than doubles production.

[luftwaffe]

My plan was to run the winch rope to the end of the row pick up the first one then collect the rest as I winch in down the line. Picking up 20 by the end.

 

I thought you said that there was to be no lines. taking 20 trees means the tush will get stuck really easy in the remaining crop. 4 or 5 trees is far easier to achieve.

[MattyF]

20 trees would be nice ! That's a lot of chokers and sliders, I would say 3-4 is realistic and then is still a ball ache and takes a bit of practice getting right... stumps,remaining trees and brash will not be kind. Get stuck in and give it a go though ,hard but enjoyable work.

[andy cobb]

If your dropping trees on to sticks already on the wire and then snedding your eventually going to winch in the biggest pile of brash you've ever seen, which will be a nightmare for the forwarder.

Is there someone local to you that works in forestry thatcould spend a morning with you on site and help get you going. Selective felling within the matrix and winching off stump can be dangerous and is a very different game to arb.

Can't knock your enthusiasm though:thumbup: