AA

[Arbocop]

Hi All

 

ive just been reading this thread through and im going to try and make some comments. To put this in perspective i am the immidiate past chair of the AA Prof commitee, a fellow of the AA, and have a deul role from my employer and the AA on some differant groups.

 

Add to that mambership of other bodies shuch as RFS, IOSH, icf,tcia etc and it all adds up to a big bill come november.

 

none of the bodies i belong to are perfect, all of them, including the ones that are non tree related seem to have at least two 'tribes' eg iosh/rospa/nebosh, now these folks are good at in fighting at an astounding level.

 

My support lies with a.good quality, b.safe tree work done at c. a sensible, sustainable price that allows for a and b to be continually improved.

 

i go to rfs events and have attended icf events, im off to a tcia doo in a couple of days, the one thing that runs through every thing i go to is that no one size fits all.

 

now every body is entitled to an opinion and a way to express it in a resnoble way. jsust saying there *** is not really that.

 

the AA, in my opinion do a resnoble job, they are, yes a trade assosiation, who are able to offer an allied charter, but they are a prof trade assosiation.

 

they do listen and do try and reflect a majority view of issues from the ylady planting seeds in the nursary to the ecologist tree man hunting bats in a veterain tree, and every thing in between, as afterall is that not arboriculture, ' the propergatin establishemntans care of trees of an aminity value' ???

 

no for my sins i sit on a couple of comittes that are related to training funding etc, but really at the grass roots level of trees and timber related stuff, were govenment set rules and we try to build meninful direction for the sector. you know they are hell, they are tediouse, slow, buracratic, tied in acronyms and procedure, I do this for a large employer and also the aa to whom i have to report back to. why as i love the trees and timber sector, and many bodies are trying to steer things in the best direction that can be found. i am happy to do this for those resons, because ever man or woman who enters the trees and timber sector has a right to a resnoble career wit hresnoble skills and knowlege developed by appropriate training experiance etc.

 

now im much happier in the woods craking over some large trees (just like cpl weeks ago big big sitka in north norfolk) but this commitee stuff is the seeds of stuff that help us all.

 

why do i mention this particually wel lbecause this is the sort of stuff that has to be done , and the majority of peole in the sector dont get involved in, but the aa and some others have, for you each and every one of you member or not and for that bodies like the aa should be aplauded.

 

now having done the posotive bit, lets give a balanced view, by far the best organisation for communication i belong to is IOSH how ever they are also the most arrogant!!!! the AA as much as it pains me to say it are really quite pants at letting peole know all the good stuff they do, and also some times get involved in things were they would be better served giving it to other bodies to represent, when chair of prof com we had this issue and it was hard to prise it from members and make them give it to another body, managed it but not always.

 

some of the most relaxing days ive had have been on rfs days out, now if you whant to see an old boys club you should come on one of those days wow lady this lord that, more double barrelked names than you can shake a stick at, but soooooo very chilled out and relaxed i cant begin to describe.

 

ISA stuff ive done very very very egeo driven, but also extreammly challangeing and thought provoking, and always hard work on the liver.????

 

with regard to the couple of comments mad above about the aa consultation for the approved scheme, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess give up 15 mins and have your say, the moor feed back the better, it would be great for the scheme to be more accessable to those who feel it is not.

 

and charter mark, any thing that gets you bett sustainable work cant be al lbad, but some one else said "it easier than the aa sceme" so it cant be the same .......

 

finally thanks for reading all my words, i hope ive given a balanced opinion here and hope that my opinion of you get out what you put in has carried through.

 

nothings perfect not lest of all the aa, or isa or rfs but why not try to make them a little better and put in alittle of the overweling skill that exists on this site

 

cheers all

 

kev

[dangerous brian]

Do you have an opinion as to why,more of us are not members yet,or is this just stigma atached to the old AA,have things moved on now,should more of us be taking the step to becoming members,thanks for taking the to time to explain yourself and the AA,cheers matey.

[Mr Ed]

Kevin - I like what you have to say, but your posts are far to long, and a spell checker is an easily available piece of software, or just click the little ABC button in the quick reply box..

Keep it coming, but try to be more succinct.

 

Sorry, but correcting the chair of the profesional commitee gives me a certain perverse pleasure.

[Johny Walker]

where,s this abc ,joby

[David Humphries]

Thanks for taking the time Kevin.

 

Very good post

 

 

 

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