Irish/Ulster Border?

[flatyre]

Just curious what the members from North/South Ireland (and anyone who wants to comment) think of resurrecting the border? I personally was glad to see it go as I think it created more issues than it solved. But with Brexit in the pipeline all those trying to reach Britain are going to flood through Ireland (historically the back door to Britain) and end up bottled up in Ulster. Has the bitterness of the troubles subsided enough to reinstate the border? Would it even work? and living on the Ards Peninsula, the most easterly point in all of Ireland, will I wake up some morning to find i'm living in the Calais Jungle?

[IRE David H]

do you realize that sheds and houses not to mention farms will be split as some in in the north and more in the south, so it will be hard for farmers to move cattle around their land.

 

gangs and fuel smugglers will come back, especailly if one part has lower fuel price then the other, it would be a disaster

 

the IRA and INLA are both looking for any excuse to kill each other again, so the good friday agreement has to be kept but if Theresa May doesn't resign and the successor, thread carefully they could be a war between the two sides, with McGuiness gone and talks of an election it could be interesting

Edited January 29, 2017 by IRE David H

[IRE David H]

by the way will disappeared ever be found

[flatyre]

do you realise that sheds and houses not to mention farms will be split as some in in the north and more in the south, so it will be hard for farmers to move cattle around their land.

 

gangs and fuel smugglers will come back, especailly if one part has lower fuel price then the other, it would be a disaster

 

I agree, bad enough the imaginary border that exists in many peoples minds without having a physical one. But there are going to have to be additional defences between mainland Europe and Britain, either at Irish ports, where Ireland meets Britain, or at the mainland ports of Britain.

[Vespasian]

If Britain leaves the EU, then theres gonna have to be a hard border betwixt Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland...

Politicians might promise otherwise but eventually one will turn up....

 

Just one more reason for a new generation of disgruntled hard core republicans to begin a new round of violence....

 

If for no other reason than to keep those lunatics at bay its worth staying in Europe for that...

 

Meanwhile the leading Brexit politician's delude themselves that those days are over....

Everytime the subjects raised I want to get a grip of those idiots and shake some sense into them...

Perhaps they imagine its a price worth paying.. bunch of dangerous idiots that they are....

[flatyre]

That's the problem, the Good Friday Agreement came into force on 2 December 1999. The Republicans were tired fighting, the Loyalists were tired fighting, the politicians were tired of fighting, and the people of Ulster were tired being caught in the middle of the fighting. Once the agreement was signed we had a window of peace in which to resolve the matter before the pain and suffering of the troubles were forgotten and the violence returned. That window is starting to close, a new breed of hardline young loyalists, republicans, and politicians are starting to come through as the older generation fades away, people who are too young to remember the horror of the troubles. Add to that this issue of the border and things could get dicey round here:thumbdown:

[IRE David H]

Vespasian

you cant build a bloody berlin wall, thought people houses or property, and if you dont they will go through the fields and there a lot of smuggling roots and bog roads up there to numerous to patrol so its impractical

[difflock]

Construction income money.

Security income money.

Force majeure claim money

Smuggling money.

Protection money.

All funded by Westminster.

Bring it on!

 

Will unfortunately be the common denominating thoughts on both sides, among those involved with the differing scams.

 

Cash for Ash will be a mere bagatelle in short hindsight

 

sigh.

[Arctostaphylos uva-ursi]

I think we should build a wall and make Ireland pay for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry that was a wee joke!

[difflock]

No no, "we" will pay the Irish/Nationalists to build it, cos the Prods/Ulstermen will be too busy guarding the wall builders.

Each to their own.