Loler

[john@arbtech]

we recently had a climber come out of a tree, one of the first things the HSE asked for was the FULL Loler history on his kit.

[skyhuck]

 

as for your insurance, they would have to pay out but after they do they will take you for the full amount. I work very closely with some members of the insurance industry, there was a bloke not so long ago that under declared his anual turnover, a payout from a resulting accident came to £350k after paying out they took the blokes house, cars, equipment the lot! If youre insurance firm have to pay out EL or PL and you can't prove you have an in date 'record of thorough examination' they will have to pay out by law but then they'll recover as much of the payout as posible from you if that means your house, cars then they'll have them

 

 

I feel sure would only be the case, IF the accident was the result of none LOLER'ed equipment failure.

 

PS, I comply with LOLER

[Dean Lofthouse]

How much is relatively inexpensive ?

 

BTW I paid £400 last time for 2 complete climbing kits with 2 ropes each and a fair few toys and a fairly comprehensive lowering kit.

 

Is that OTT?

 

Whats the cheapest you've had?

 

(sorry for the slight derail)

 

If I got charged that much I'd rely on me checking my own gear thanks,

 

It would be cheaper to buy new ropes every year.

 

Just one question for you all... how many accident do you know of that have been down to kit failure.

 

Plus, even if say a lowering rope failed that was lolered and killed someone, if that failure was down to over loading or misuse then lolering means nothing.

 

If you are stupid enough to use worn or crap kit....blah blah blah

 

Lolering has it's place to protect employees using the firms kit

[skyhuck]

If I got charged that much I'd rely on me checking my own gear thanks,

 

It would be cheaper to buy new ropes every year.

 

Just one question for you all... how many accident do you know of that have been down to kit failure.

 

Plus, even if say a lowering rope failed that was lolered and killed someone, if that failure was down to over loading or misuse then lolering means nothing.

 

If you are stupid enough to use worn or crap kit....blah blah blah

 

Lolering has it's place to protect employees using the firms kit

 

To be honest Dean I think you are right.

 

I comply because some of my clients require it.

[john@arbtech]

If I got charged that much I'd rely on me checking my own gear thanks,

 

It would be cheaper to buy new ropes every year.

 

Just one question for you all... how many accident do you know of that have been down to kit failure.

 

Plus, even if say a lowering rope failed that was lolered and killed someone, if that failure was down to over loading or misuse then lolering means nothing.

 

If you are stupid enough to use worn or crap kit....blah blah blah

 

Lolering has it's place to protect employees using the firms kit

 

I charged £100 ex vat for two standard kits and a lowering kit, last week, so it could be a tad expensive???

[john@arbtech]

sky, you are very right, loler is basicaly the same as an MOT, once out of the garage, anything can happen!

[Rupe]

And if you have a big claim, just sell everything to your mates for a quid and they can't touch it! And they can't take your house unless you let them! Insurance companies suck arse!

[john@arbtech]

And if you have a big claim, just sell everything to your mates for a quid and they can't touch it! And they can't take your house unless you let them! Insurance companies suck arse!

 

haha, the insurance company cant, but when they banckrupt you, the insolvancey brigade CAN, and WILL take your house if the court says they can!

[skyhuck]

haha, the insurance company cant, but when they banckrupt you, the insolvancey brigade CAN, and WILL take your house if the court says they can!

 

Rent!!

[Rupe]

That is so far down the line that you should be well pretected (emigrated) by then!

 

Also don't let them banckrupt you, just do it voluntarily and bugger off. They can't touvch you then cos your bankrupteded.

 

I'm not advocating this approach. I'm insured and lolered etc, I just hate all the fearmongering that goes on!