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I haven't taken any.. and does it matter?.. my complaint is about their attitude as much as the work done or not done as it happens..

As it happens I haven't done it yet, only just talked to her today.. I'll go round when I've got a minute.. take me two minutes to do the job as well.. lives two minutes from were I live so it ain't gonna cost me nothin..

Its not a tree twenty ft from the job they did, its part of the hedge they were doing.. what part of that don't you understand.. If I asked someone to tidy up an hedge with three different species in it, would you tidy up two species but not the third?... and this attitude gets on my nerves as well.. theres a rose bush in the hedge, can you cut it back why you're there??... no love, we quoted for the 500 quid reduction not the rose bush removal.. talk about a crappy attitude to doin a job.. As it is its just a small domestic job, but if I ever employed anyone with that attitude and found em out, they'd be booted off the job before their feet touched the ground..

Yea, I've had a few things nicked by having a similar set up in the past.. I went back to a panel van.. got a near brand new hedge cutter nicked out the back of that last year, . now I make a habit of going round locking all the doors at every job.. thieving bastards... I swear every time I have to trouble myself by locking the doors I think of that hedgecutter and what I would of done to the thief had I caught him red handed... of all the criminals out there, I have a special hatred for thieves.. hang em from lamp posts is what I'd be doin if I had my way....

Good, I'll attempt that now that I know how to go about it.. when I have a pic I want to upload that is...

I reported what they said.. the point being is a couple of tree's in a hedge part of the hedge?.. I'd think so, anyone would think so.. thats my point..

doesn't help in this case as I don't have any. but thanks, I'll try that in future.. do you need to upload to photobucket or anything first.. its how I used to have to do it.. which seemed an assle and why I don't bother no more...

I'm sure they were asked to cut back the conifers.. by that it must of been assumed to cut back the hedge.. all of it.. one small tree in the middle one taller one at the end.. all part and parcel of the hedge.. I'm sure they knew what they were doing when they refused to do any of the tree's within the hedge.. attempting get away with not doing a full job for the money they were paid.. it isn't that they were giving away freebee's, but stealing money off the customer and doing a shody job..

And you'd know that would you?.. as it happens I have no idea what they quoted for, only their say so to the tenant... and, even if the muppets had only the conifers in mind.. they're a bunch of wasters in my opinion as they didn't do the job they were paid for... to cut the hedge back... anyone else think a hedge doesn't include all the species in it?...

Wires?.. no why?... phone lines you mean?... Nope just couldn't be arsed doin the job right as they imagined they could say they'd quoted for the connies to the tenant, not knowing the tenant and the landlady and me all know each other.. live in a village see, we all know each other for the most part... I haven't spoken to the landlady yet, but I'll bet she thought she was paying for the job to be done to the tenants satisfaction...

when I figure out how to upload pics on here I can show you.. as it happens the hedge was about twenty foot long and ten foot high. reduced to six foot.. they haven't made a bad job of it to be honest.. I was singing their praises till I asked why the tree at the end hadn't been chopped back or those two branches sticking out to one side had been left sticking out like two sore thumbs...

Not exactly, the tenant wanted the conifers reduced, the landlord arranged for the reduction.. the landlord would of expected the whole lot reduced as well.. but the lads obviously being tart arses or scammers thought they'd save some bonus time by sneaking off without doin the job right.. I think the the tree in the hedge isn't even as tall as the hedge, just a couple of branches sticking out making the job untidy, the tree at the end is about fifteen foot tall, two cuts and done.. nothing to it.. I mean the fella's might well of quoted to just do the conifers, but come on, even a moron would know an edge is an edge is an edge.. including the odd bit of weedy tree growing in with it.. Its the attitude as much as anything else that gets me.. petty, peevish jobs worths..

OK was asked to reduce a conifer hedge in the Winter for one of my customers.. Now I would of done it no problem but at the time didn't fancy doing it due to getting a pulled back every time I do tree work.. I've eased off on tree's of late, not that I ever did many to begin with... Now heres the thing.. in amoungst the conifer hedge are two small tree's. one amounting to a couple of branches sticking out to one side and another small tree at the end of the hedge about ten foot tall.. dead as a dodo.. now talking to her today and asking why the two small tree's in the hede were left she told me they wouldn't touch them as they'd priced to remove the conifers and not the tree's in amoungst the hedge.. You fkin what I said, I thought maybe she'd told em not to bother as it might of been getting late in the day or something, getting dark in winter at 3.30 as you do.,.. no, they'd turned up at ten in the morning and gone by twelve.. why didn't you ask em to chop em down, throw em in the chipper.. five minutes extra if that I said.. Well they wouldn't do it, she says.. Now as far as I can see, the tree's are part of the hedge. and as such aught to have been reduced with the conifers..... Now, what kind of tree men are they when they won't even chop off a couple of extra branches even if they had quoted to remove "just the conifers".. Talk about peevish.. scumbags..... For the record I never refuse to do that one bit extra if asked.. like Buckin BIlliy says, price a job as not to turn down that extra bit of work, you know they're gonna ask you!!!!.. Nothin worse than pricing a job so as to make you despise being there a minute more than you have to... For some context, the woman rents the house and the owner arranged for the tree surgeons to reduce it... Now mugging here has to go round and tidy their shoddy work up for a favour.. cup of coffee and a chat.. only lives round the corner so no big deal.. anyways, are these fella's scumbags or is it something some of you fella's would do?... well I know its what some would do, but give me strength, for want of an extra five minutes they ruined their otherwise good hedge reduction.. and reputation.. Morons......

I can't see bio fuels being produced for ten dollars a barrel which is what it cost to extract Saudi Oil.. though to be fair there is the refining costs on top of that.. plus distribution costs but that applies to bio fuels I suppose... anyway, I suppose with an high crude price we might see parity but if crude prices drop off a cliff it becomes uneconomic overnight.. You can turn the taps off at an oil well but you can't stick millions of acres of crops back in the ground.. well I suppose you could.. but you know what I mean..

you'd be lay on settee with a duckdown quilt thrown over you if you lived in this thing I have to put up with.. I might as well live in a barn.. its one plus is its cool when its scorching outside..

I was quoting haironyourchest

The problem is, for america to do well it needs to sell to other countries.. and if those other countries are deprived of oil.. they go bust, they can't buy.. america goes bust... don't matter if america was self sufficient in oil it still has to police the world one way or another...

I lived off grid for eight years. Minimal solar setup, 100 watts of panels and 120 AH of storage or so. It was fine for charging a phone and a few lights. Its when you want serious power for washing machines, kettles, cookers, water heaters, power tools and so on that the problems arise. Even a site generator won't easily boil a kettle (it will but not good for the gennie) You're talking massive output for water heating... something tells me the people promoting living off grid are hiding something..

Though you have a point about the hidden costs of oil, it doesn't hide the fact its still cheaper to suck it out the ground than to grow bio fuels from crops... The thing about bio fuels is you need an awful lot of land to replace only a small percentage the fuels we get from crude oils.. I suppose in Africa early in the last century it might of made sense to make the argument about growing crops for fuels.. population would of been a small percentage of what it is today... the numbers of cars only a couple of thousand.. scale that up to todays population and it ain't possible..

I'm sure he knows all about batteries and whats being experimented on.. thats something that doesn't concerns me.. I'd be more impressed if he worked on upcoming battery technology.. I'm sure he's a bright fella as well.. having read his page and a couple of others from his site i get the impression he ain't no numpty... still, its all a bit pointless if he works on the periphery of the battery powered technology industry.. I want you to link to sites that deal in new technology that suggests a great leap in battery technology is being made.. I've looked and can't find anything that suggests any tipping point has been reached storing energy into batteries.. Thats because they've reached their limits..

well thunderfoots vid covers topics we've been over were as your mate just runs a battery monitoring business.. he doesn't mention any science on that page you linked to.. its just a sales pitch for his business... in fact I'm gonna go back and read that link see if I've missed something relevant to the subject we're talking about..

still haven't explained what new battery technology he's working on.... how he intends to win a noble prize by breaking the laws of physics... meanwhile I've just watched thunderfoots latest upload, turns out his latest vid covers a lot of issues we've been talking about..

damn you eggs, I had to get off my couch to read that.. If your friend doesn't work inventing new battery types I can't see what your point is... he might have something that monitors batteries but its not the same as making breakthroughs in battery technology.. I did try to read your link but lost the will to live within a minute... so gave up...

It means my spell checker fked me up.... I can just about make out the words from were I'm lay down on the couch so balls ups are part an parcel of my threads.. though I do check here and there to see if that damned spell checker hasn't done me over again.... I could move closer to the monitor, but lying on the couch is much more comfortable, so I ain't moving closer in on a chair...

Its not my opinion you should be taking note of, its experts in the field of thermodynamics... I'm just passing on his opinions.. and he's a nuclear physicist. Your friend might live off grid, good for him.. but if its that good why isn't everyone else doing it?... might I suggest because the economies of scale of a power station is much cheaper than having a micro power station in every house..