aaron mj

Alryt im keen, im in kent but i travel about loads all over europe contracting.... See previouse thread if your willing to pay the money and have a weeks work let me know.

Hi i contract in Germany now and again.... gOOD CONTRACT CLIMBERS SHOULD BE EARNING ABOUT 300 EUROS a day. the best with a really good reputation etc earn 400. but no idea about employed lads.

Hi, Experienced contract climber looking for work in Kent / South London. All lowering Kit, saws provided. Experience in UK, Sweden, Germany and Oz. Call, 07429903594 Mail, [email protected] Please as much notice as possible as work rotors in Europe. Cheers Aaron

Yeah thats correct and very often overlooked as well.....Perfect example of reducing (load) is when installing access line for SRT isolating an anchor with alpine butterfly as apose to running a line over each side of that limb and tieing around the base means Say 100kg climber is still 100kg not 200kg. And Drew im not talking about reducing force here i 100% agree that by reducing force you reduce shock load on that anchor point, but initial load is still there........ The reason i really think this is worth while discussing is because with new developments in cord and pullys etc massive loads can be acomplished. However i see a real future problem with anchor point loading being overlooked because of simple misconceptions regarding ''loadspreading'' which doesnt exist. Load is load is load and force minimisation is the way in which people seem to be focusing on eliminating it. Load cant be Eliminated. Any way i dont usually post on important threads like this...... Mainly because i feel like some kind of old dude with nothing better to do with my time haha. But i do think its important, and more and more relevent as things get more advanced.

Sure i understand about that, but 200kg is still 200kg the load isnt anyless?? That reduces force, surely?? which in tern reduces shock loading and there for reduces stress on the anchor points. we all know about that. Its why cord like yale double esterlon and pollydene are so popular. and favoured over static cord with far hire breaking strength. but John was talking about load spreading. opening an angle is great. but you still have a double load on the two systems rather than the one main one. In my opinion re- directs are little more than a back up and cranning point. weight is still there. and still affecting systems/anchors in the same way. i dont know many people/anyone who goes up and sets two exactly level lowering points, would be very awkward and very inefficient. if they arnt exactly level the highest will still fail under the same load as it would have with out a secondary. force is reduced but not load..............

To be fair it does sound like a great oppertunity seen as you put it like that. I guess the trees are pretty nice also and have always been looked after by people in the know.

Ok re direct pullys do add a bend to the rope which i suppose can loosly be classed as spreading the load through friction. I agree by changing the angle a rope runs through a pully you can change forces on that pully..... but the load is the same no matter what you do. Your only really changing the way load is applied to the highest anchor point/(s) Ive only ever skimmed through the art of practical rigging i have to admit. Adding more rope?? How can this help? the force is the same........ Cheers for the help with this if im wrong its good to know but im fairly certain. vtio website has some info on force vectras

Re directs dont spread loads mate, load is still applied to the main anchor point regardless of and secondary anchor. Redirects as in pullys not natural crotching were brought about because of double braid rigging lines being introduced to rigging as we know it. I.E you cant natural crotch double braids like you can 12 strand, 16 strand etc etc. But they do act as a back up if you overload your main anchor.

You will never get anyone with any experience to work for that price surely.

I wouldnt bother bro, They produce poor quality and underpaid work. They know that you as uk climber will be happy with a uk wage. I know ive worked in Sweden for a long time and still contract there from time to time for a few companys. (Tradfallerlaget have a bad name)

hello mate, cheers for the message. but im based in Kent bit to far to travel for me.

Experienced contract climber looking for work in Kent and South London. Contract climbing for 3 years in Germany, Oz, and Sweden. Provide my own saws and rigging Kit, insurance. Quick, hard working and safe climber. [email protected] 07429903594

Im an experienced contract climber, from Kent i can do some days if you guys get stuck. Private message me for cv,experience, rates and equipment provided.

I really think you need to have a little sit down and work it all out mate. 120 a day take the tax and NI, take travel, take insurance, take kit/saw maintainance, take fuel, take time off/down time, plus being good at what you do = a poor wage and a difficult days work. In the south anyway.

Hahaha

Sounds good, cheers for that.

Maidstone area, not far from you......reductions, removals, thinns etc etc.

Im currently in Sweden, back 21st can call any time after then. Or now but a very expensive chat..

Yep most of my work is prunning. I like to make things look good.

Ive just come back from Oz. Melbourne... in answer to your question yes it is worth it. i was contracting for 6 companys in and around Melbourne. The money for a contractor is between $350 and $500 a day, dont expect regular work at $500 and you need all kit, and will almost certainly be working with unskilled and poorly equiped crews. If your good you will work for $400-$425 a day every day no gaps. at the moment thats about £230. The pay for good climbers employed is $25-$30 as far as i know expect to be called a pommy c**t ever 5 minutes, and drink lots of VB at the yard. Word of warning though. The Ozzy boys are really really good at removing big trees because its a big part of the work there. You will find yourself out of work very quickly if you give it the big one.

Hi, Experienced contract climber looking for work in Kent / South London. All lowering Kit, saws provided. Experience in UK, Sweden, Germany and Oz. Call, 07429903594 Mail, [email protected] Please as much notice as possible as work rotors in Europe. Cheers Aaron