Rupe
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Yes, for that kind of work its very much needed. And, I guess, you can show the client the license if you need to, to prove your not a flytipper and to justify the costs? (Not that you should have to justify anything of course!)
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Oh, and they are from a pro climbing shop in southwest wales that doesnt sponsor this site!! Shhhhhhhhhh!
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Im a bit confused by it all to be honest! All I know is that I dont feel we should need it. Paul Smith would be the person to clarify the facts. If I have to keep renewing my WCL just to make things simple then I will, its not expensive, I just dont think I get anything out of having it. If in doubt just get it, its very simple form filling.
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Hi, I use 1.8m slings with a SWL of 750kgs, they are pretty bombproof. Never likely to lower 750kgs in one go, and if I was anywhere near that I would be using a 16mmrope with no slings anyway.
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The actual point is though, and always has been, we are not carrying waste! (or shouldnt be) everything we take away can be considered as a product. It could be considered waste if you take it to landfill and pay for disposal ( I guess some do that) and you would need a WCL for that. Personally every load of woodchips I take goes to somewhere/someone who wants woodchips. Its is not waste. I have had a WCL for several years and always considered it to be a waste (sorry) of money, but the AA have now made the EA see sense and the exemption is now in place for tree by products.
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You did need one, but you wont from sometime soon, not sure of the date!! There is an exemption for tree work products, a form to fill in, but its free. I have a waste carriers, but on my AAAC assessment I was told I wont need to renew it if I ge the exemption. Paul Smith is the person to get all the real details from as he had a hand in sorting it out for arb produce.
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I thnk its a good thing to do, but as to weather its "worth it", well that depends on how you define worth. If you are looking purely at moneytary returns, then it depends on how well you are doing in the first place. If you are doing fine and have good contracts and income then its just the icing on the cake, probably not going to make a lot of difference, but if you are struggling to get into the contract you want then it might help. I am glad I have done it, but I'm no better off financially as yet, we'll see what happens, but I'm busy with work and always have been. I have had a few enquiries and doen some quotes that came direct from customers looking on the AA website, but the jobs were conny bashing ones, and I stopped doing that kind of thing 10years ago and have little interest in starting again now!
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Thanks all. I like to explain stuff so that it might be of use to someone! They kept all the wood, in fact we didnt move any wood, and they took the chip away in their trailer to use somewhere. I dont want the stuff. Money was very good on this one, but I slightly underpriced a large beech take down on the same site, but the two added together is still good. No photos of the beech cos it was raining!! Still got the stem to go and finish, if I had managed that in a day then the ££ would have been really good.
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Ha ha, !! Yes!! That was in fact the original plan! BUT, we forgot to take the long 16mm line that we needed for it! We could have set the top anchor with the 19mm line as well in fact but we didnt have that one either. No worries though, setting false anchors like that does increase the load on the tree at that point, and as I was redirected on the same limb I was happy to keep the forces to a minimum. But with hindsight, the Oak was bombproof and the was was zero shock loading so all would have been fine. Another admission is that I didnt go up and get the pulleys down, my groundie/second climber did that while I was chogging the Syc stem down.
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Yes, slowed down on the video making! It is quite time consuming so unless its a special job and/or and nice day/location then I dont tend to bother, just cut the flippin tree down and go home! I also bought an HD camera which is better for many reasons but mostly due to it being rechargable. But so far I have not got to grip with editing HD, or at least my old computer hates it! So I do have a few job that have been filmed but are awaiting editing when I can be bothered or when I get a more powerful pc.
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Thanks. Yes a few years of pictures there, and most of them have threads relating to then here aswell.
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We were going to but then we felt they were better off leaning against the windows, so we left it at the place where the branches were being lowered, so if they swung towards the shed they would bounce of the boards. The shed roof was knacked anyway, all the felt was ripped up. The boards were left in that area and in our way so we thought we might as well use them. Didnt drop anything on the roof anyway so no worries.
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Thanks. Its called Yellow jacket, from Sherrils, but its actually just Samson arbormaster in Sherrils own colour.
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When I got to just the last 30ft of trunk to come down, I wanted to get my climbing line out of the Oak while I could still reach it (it wasnt long enough to retrieve from the ground). I still had the rigging line in place so I clipped the rigging line to the friction hitch side of my climbing system and my groundie pulled that back up into the tree. This little video shows the retrieval of the climbing line and ropeguide and redirect sling which was then lowered straight back to me on the rigging line. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vc85sVVw_w]Rope retreive - YouTube[/ame]
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Cheers. Got some video but its not very good! Was a nice day for it though considering the recent weather. All finished in the day aswell.
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Not seen one of those for years, very nice. I reckon it would do your hands in carving with it for any length of time, even an hour and you would know about it!
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no, not got on well with that at all!! I guess I wouldnt have run out of rope though!
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The debris went out via the back of the spa building over a haha and into a field. And from there is a better angle photo of the job in progress.
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It was a bit strange removing the trunk of the Syc as I went along, usually of course that would be the rigging point but it was in the way so had to go. The drooping line is a retrieval for the rigging line.
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For the climb line its just a daisychain sling with two revolver krabs, and the rigging line is just an another fixed pulley. DMM impact block small. So I could pull my climb line out of the tree with the redirect but still had to go back up to get the rigging pulleys out. Left the access line in the oak for that purpose.
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There are mixed opinions on this method. Some say that the additional karabiners increase the chances of sideloading and so should be avoided. I dont have a problem with it myself but its worth pointing out the potential downsides of this method. I just like having the option to multi rig at any stage and so the rigging plate just stays there. Clip the new branch on, and then remove the spare sling. Simples.
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So thats four slings, but three in use at any one time. Some more pics then.
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Yes, I use slings on the rigging plate. I like that method for small stuff, then use rope only if it gets any bigger. We usually keep one sling on the ground, i,e, the one being untied stays there and come back up the next time, it saves about 5-10 seconds on each lower.
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Here you can just see the oak above the Syc, as we get started taking the smaller stem off, as its right in the way of the large stem. And down for lunch. Had to come down on a seperate rope, with some strange prussik thing on it, because the main line wasnt long enough to come right down. In the last picture you can see the main climb line (yellow) clipped to the final descent line half way up the tree. Thats the first time I have run out of rope with that one which is a 60m rope.
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So the GRCS is on the oak which is a bit behind the shed, and the final line of the rigging rope is just to one side of the shed (which has plastic windows!)
