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  1. Rupe
    I was only stating my opinions. Its tree work, not rocket science or brain surgery, so if there are only three catagories I would happily put what we do in the middle one, no matter how skilled we actually are.
  2. Rupe
    Thats great, go for it, its not a flaw. But you could spend the rest of your life happy in the woods looking at funghi, or unhappy cos no one recognises the fact the you spend all your time in the woods looking at funghi.
  3. Rupe
    No, my opinion or analogy may be different to yours, but not mistaken.
  4. Rupe
    Its my life too (except beer and women, oh and cinema) (oh and mountainbiking, and DIY) (oh, my friend and family) (well not so much my family) but other than that (oh, did I mention beer) other than that it is my life. Sorry, seriously, imagine it being your life and lovign it BUT not wanting recogntion. How great and fulfilled would your life be then? You'd have everything, and then you might even get some recognition as well?
  5. Rupe
    Fair enough. I didn't think opinions or analogies could be wrong. End of a good converstation then, thanks.
  6. Rupe
    What recognition do you want to recieve? Its just a job, its only there to pay for holidays and beer and women ( I don't mean pay for them directly, by the hour or anything!!) Of course its great job if you enjoy it, but making others appreciate what you do will always be like shoveling smoke. I don't think I have it as sorted as I would like and SB (SWB) may have found the perfect balance, I'm still trying. But recognition is the last thing I need, a few more top clients and I'd be happy. And I think there is a good balance between HSE requirements and waht you refer to as elite BS, that can be achieved so you get good work but without being too arsy about it all. I may be skilled in tree work but there are aspects of running a business that I find really really hard, much harder than any tree I've done and I don't always think I have the skills to achieve what I want but I keep trying.
  7. Rupe
    On a capstan I would say that looks a bit too much for any groundy. No harm done I hope?
  8. Rupe
    Sure. I was just making an example, not saying you can or can't do anything.
  9. Rupe
    WOW, theres your contraversy right there!!!!! You could write plenty more on that! I think if you go with rigging you'll find plenyt to write about so go for it. Just remember that facts about accidents and safety etc is not controversial.
  10. Rupe
    Tony, your a skilled guy in a semi skilled proffession. There are plenty of un skilled climbers in the same semi skilled proffession. The catagory does not define the level of skill a person has within that catagory.
  11. Rupe
    I think if you are qualified and insured to carry out tree surveys then you could say that you are doign the equivelant of the bridge designing bit, and so you would be catagorized as "skilled".
  12. Rupe
    What was the outcome of that one? 16mm rope, double anchors, GRCS, looks to be on the limit but should be ok of the tree ( and groundie) is up to it??
  13. Rupe
    Do you see where we are coming from Tony?? Th HSE know all about rigging and the risks involved (thanks in part to the treevolution research etc) and I'm sure they want us to be more careful all the time, but I don't see a contraversial aspect to that.
  14. Rupe
    I think the fact that its a "trade" probably help put it in the semi skilled catagory. I'm not saying its right (or wrong) but its just a catagory. Hows this......... Skilled engineers design a new bridge. Semi skilled "trades men" construct the bridge (using there immense skills of course) Un skilled labourers carry the tools and tidy up...
  15. Rupe
    Thast a great one!! I'm sure HSE would prefer mewps only, and we would find that very contraversial.
  16. Rupe
    Ok, so the requiremtn is the contraversial aspect? from a HSE point of view. The possible banning of top handles saws? The work at height regulations? That could be good, as the way it was written makes it difficult to implement in our proffesion, and so we now acknowledge it but don't make it mandatory in every job????? Ermmm........I'll have a think.......
  17. Rupe
    More than average pay is still classed as semi skilled!! Its only a catagory. No tree workers get 50K+ salaries do they?
  18. Rupe
    Of course it requires skills, you've got them I might have, we are all highly skilled in our proffession which is classed as semi skilled!!
  19. Rupe
    I agree with all that, but as you say its facts. You need a mojority to disagree to make it contraversial. For example, abortion is a contraversial issue. I don't see whats contraversial about rigging? Theres loads wrong with it, and loads of people doing it wrong (me most of the time) but wheres the contraversy?
  20. Rupe
    Even people in the "un skilled" catagory could die if they made a mistake in their job. I think you just put your own insurance premium up mate!!!!!!
  21. Rupe
    Is your remit "a controversial Health and safety issue relating to our game" and then you've chosen rigging? If so I'm sure you can come up with the goods. I can't think of a contraversial side to it though?
  22. Rupe
    I don't quite follow, but I could think of some subjects.... not quite sure what you mean by controversial. Rigging is an important subject, but what is the contraversial part of it? I'm just curous is all.
  23. Rupe
    Yeah its semi skilled. You need skill half the time but not the rest!! "skilled" and "semi skilled" are just a catogories. It doesn't mean much, but tree work is semi skilled not unskilled like casual labouring, because it requires an understaning of machinery and techniques, but its no more skilled than other semi skilled proffessions such as joinery, plumbing etc. They all need courses but they are only semi skilled occupations. Of course you need skills to do the job, but they are skills learned in time and once you have them its not that skillful its just a job. I think the term "skilled" would be for something a bit more technical and possibly requiring a degree.. engineering for example would be a skilled proffesion.
  24. Rupe
    Whats contraversal about it? If there are any of mine on here, let me know which ones first, your welcome to use them.
  25. Rupe
    They've got plenty of those already! We might take the rest out at some point, not sure, no rush, other things coming up on the priority list first.

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