Rupe

Just cut it! Are you working for the person who's line it is? or is it just a line that happens to be going through where you are working?

Footlock past the ivy, set up the rigging and start the dismantle. Strip Ivy while your waiting for groundies to un tie. Simple, shouldn't take any longer except the pile of ivy to clear up. Every time you cut a branch off at the colar, cut all the ivy within reach, then when you start choggin down it should peel off. If the rest of you charge double then no wonder I win every dismantle job I look at!

I'm 40 in three weeks today! I'm like a bag of blunt nails though, rough, hard, odd shaped and don't realy have one good point! I do good analogies though!

Mine was missing, but i just let it rest in transport.

Sure you do it your way, but the main comapnay chose to hire you in, so they take responsibility. If the ground crew shout all clear and then you cut a branch that hits a car cos they didn't stop you or the car, then its not your fault. They can't claim against your insurance unless you employ the ground crew, in which case you would have your own riskj assessment for the day that your guys would sign. If you sign the companies RA then its on there insurance. If their guys sign your risk assesssment then maybe its more on yours but the main company should still hold a risk assessment that covers the job including choosing you as the climber.

I do agree with you. My statement was more from a legal point of veiw. Its not your problem. Of course a responsable climber would stay and sort things out, but they don't need to. Its not about passing the buck, in fact if the company want to claim from the climbers insurance then that is passing the buck. The climber is only carrying out the work as required by the company, thay can pretend they take charge as much as they like, but ultimalty they are working to the risk assessment carrried out by the principal contractor.

It looks rough, but I bought mine 4 years ago for 3500, and its never missed a beat. I don't look after it very well but it goes fine! If the engine is ok and the bearings are greased then there is not much else to go wrong. Sell the trailer as soon as you can cos they are a waste of a tow hitch IMO. Get an Iffor trailer and then you are taking two useful tools to site at once!

You don't need insurance if you are climbing with another team. You could write out a shoping list. So X amount per day for basic then add 10 for every other saw needed, plus 50 for a full rigging kit, etc etc. If the wotsit hits the fan, go home! Not your problem. The company chose to hire you in, so any mistake is their mistake. True subcontracting would only occur if the subbie is bringing his own groundcrew and taking over the site without assistance from the original company. I've been sayign this for ages, but I'm still more than happy to be proven wrong, if there any self employed climbers who have had to claim on their insurance while working for another company then I would love to hear how it went.

I mean well but I'm not sure about grounded!!

Ok, i wasn't being too helpful was I !!? But seeing as there is no distinct clarification of what a tree surgeon is or isn't then there isn't any "legal" requirements to being a tree surgeon except paying of income tax. But I'll try and be more useful. If your looking for a minimium list then the AAAC is going to be a bit too long, and full of un necessaries. There are legal requirements for certain activities. Public liability is NOT a legal requirement. Employers liability is a legal requirement, and you need it if you employ self-employed people to work on your jobs with you and course if you employ people full time. Qualifications, well the range only has to be as broad as the activities you wish to undertake. Don't need a big tree fellign ticket if your not felling big trees! And these qualifications are not a legal requirement for you, but you can't employ someone (including self employed poeple) to do a job for reward unless they are qualified. Loler is a legal requirement, and of course driving stuff is required.

Cool. 6.333 for me then. Seriously though, one handing may not best practice, but if you can do it safely (i.e. know the risks and limitations) then its ok. I'm virtually ambidextrous and can do many thing with either hand (lets not go there) and it is very useful.

The person whos name is on the quote. Beit Mr ABC or XYZ trees Ltd.

I should give myself an extra point then! Using a top handle one handed is an extra skill!

I promise I don't mean to keep contradicting you..........but..........in the above you say "So it probably is not a skilled trade" I think as trades go it is skilled, and we should take pride in the skills we have. Its just that trades in general are considered semi-skilled in the big scheme of things. I'm a highly skilled tree surgoen, if I was cleverer I migh thave been a highly skilled architect or engineer and that might class me as "skilled". But I dropped out after A'levels and did what I wanted to do. Simples, and I'm happy (and skint) and don't much care what others think.

Three posts confirming that its a team effort. More evidence that you can't "sub contract" out the climbing aspect to a seperate insurance policy. Sorry, I'll shut up now.

The "law" is to pay income tax, how you calculate it depends on how legal you are trying to be, or not be! You can only pay it on your profit if you keep your books up to date and do tax returns. Either way its called income tax!

Probably the only legal requirement is to pay tax on your income!

I think its a lot more than a select few I would go as far as saying its probably the most common! Everyone knows a bloke who can cut a tree down, and if they don't they find one in YP.

And what does a small red-indian live in?

Yes you are right. We have done some leave on site work recently and the groundies have had it easy. But generally I think its harder, I ground occasionally and its hard work.

What if its a small one?

Probably. Its up to the client to ask for insurance docs. YP ads are not declarations of truth are they? You only need to talk to a YP sales rep to know that. I'm not condoning it of course! But if it got to court then there must have been an accident, so he would be made to pay damages, but not prosecuted for a misleading YP ad.

Thats a good one. Yes, thats what I was getting at, there are plenty of them around. I spoke to one once that had an ad in YP that said "fully insured". I asked him about this and he said that his vehicle is fully insured! No crime there.

Down here the wee tree is different thing!!

Theres the tree thats being felled and the ones that aren't. What there names are is not impotant, I don't want to make it personal!