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Pretty sure a transit can weigh 3.5t including it's payload, tools and occupants. Unless you want to have vosa pull your pants down for being massively overloaded that is. 😂 Sent from my E5823 using Arbtalk mobile app

Try hiring one from a plant hire company before buying one so you can find out if it'll be the right machine for the job in future cuts. My mate hired a modern version of one from our local hire company last winter to cut a overgrown flood meadow and I did most of the cutting with it. The ground was reasonably level apart from old ruts and thick tussocks from overgrown clumps of sedge. It was hard work to control and we broke it twice over the weekend but the hire company managed to fix it on the first day by taking parts off a rotavator which was just the same machine with a different implement fitted. They are good if you have got long vegetation to cut and can't get a tractor onto the site because of access or ground conditions and are wanting to rake off the cut material. I have also used them to cut reedbeds and scrub on chalk downland.

Had the opposite the other day. We had just finished carefully roping down a tall skinny Leyland Cypress to avoid damaging the steps, fences and railings resulting in a steep uphill drag in the pouring rain. The customer came out with coffees and said "Oh you did it in bits, I thought you were just going to fell it in one up the garden" LOL!

Thanks for the replies so far, I suspect logs won't be the major problem as the local log fairies often come out of the woodwork when they hear the buzz of a chainsaw and the timber and sweepings are the things that usually get loaded on at the end of the day when we have hopefully already unloaded our first load of woodchip and part filled the truck with the second load. Which will then go back to the yard with us. The Collier site may well be useful if we don't get any better options. I will keep a note of contact details for the logs in case we need to shift a load locally. Cheers Lozza

We have a job in Bracknell coming up this week with a fair quantity of woodchip and maybe logs to remove from site. Does anyone know of tip sites locally? Or anyone with a yard prepared to take it; we are based in Kent so running back to our yard could be a problem if we have more than one load per day. Don't know more detail yet about location or quantity. If anyone can help either reply on here or you can email me [email protected] Thanks in advance Laurence

Our yard is in Shoreham, Kent if you want to come and have a look, I'll see what I can sort you out. Our yard manager does like to process the logs fairly quickly but I often put stuff aside for my Dad as he is also a woodturner. pm me your number if you're interested and I'll see what we can do.

+1 to that, if they spot him that is with all that camoflauge Saw vosa pulling people into a layby on the way to job this morning. Apparently they were still there this afternoon, my colleague saw them and kept going round the roundabout and went back to the yard a different way:sneaky2:. It was a good load on both vehicles - the spec said take 7.5ton lorry for capacity err slight underestimate we filled 13ton lorry with chip and logs plus 2 dumpies of sweepings as well as well as filling the 130 with logs and tools. Bit of a slog but finished by 3 o'clock

Bout time this thread was bumped Sweet Chestnut monolith at 8-10m by Tommy Two Hats MS660 up the tree

One of the guys got stopped last week with the 3.5t Iveco for an "abnormal load", haven't got a pic but although they were big logs (we got them out with the Arbor Trolley and loaded them with the grab) most of us on here would have said the truck was half full I mean the load wasn't even above the height of the alu sides and no chipper. Then on Friday coming back from the same site with the grab lorry heavily loaded with logs the same size and 3rd day running we were bricking it that we were gonna get pulled the grab was so high on the back that we had to think before going under bridges!

That's a good effort for a transit off road assuming it didn't get stuck that is:lol: Most of the off road sites we've been on lately have been so wet our Defender 130 with mud terrains has got stuck a few times and we've had to use the winch. One the other day the 90 had to be winched into the wood after it got stuck on a grassy slope we didn't even have a chipper on the back.

That should have been "milled in the fens", it was felled by nature about 4000 years ago Here is the thread on the bog oak referred to above, the project is a masterclass in how it should be done. http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/milling-forum/48467-huge-tree-milled-fens.html These guys specialise in bog oak and if the log is sound they might be the best people to mill and kiln it for you. Or at least give the advice and or contacts that you need.

I'm guessing that those tops would have been too high for the crane they had to have picked them off without shock loading the boom. The pre-rigging brought them down low enough to be lifted safely by the butts. The remaining tree would then be low enough to crane of in the normal way. Some precise cutting required though felling some of those bits next to the MEWP

As I'm sure you know with a properly maintained chainsaw a large conventional pruning cut (say 12inch plus) does not take much longer than a small one i.e both are way less than a minute. Whereas coronets can vary enormously depending on a number of factors such as size, technique and how artistic you want to get. I have found that efficiency and realistic looks are considerably enhanced if you can make use of the weight and leverage of the branch. Not always possible I know but most of this work is done in the woods where there are less obstacles to avoid and you have to be selective and realistic about when to coronet or not. I should think that I have never done more than 4 coronets on one tree and we only use these methods where the site manager is on board and often when the work is priced on a day rate basis. To give you an idea though the cut in the first picture probably took a bit over a minute and the two cuts in the monolith about 3-4 minutes each. I should think that the ones that David posted earlier in the thread took a lot longer as were larger and done with far more artistic effort. Ultimately though if the customer wants these methods used then you price the work accordingly. Hope that helps.....Phew:001_rolleyes:

I think how commonly the techniques of natural fracture pruning are used on NT jobs and others such as country parks etc. very much depends individual views of site managers and the local contractors available to them as well as their familiarity with the relatively new methods of veteran tree management. We first got involved in the focused management of ancient trees in 2002 and in the years since have built up a reputation with several organisations locally for specialising in the methods being discussed here in addition to the more conventional ones.

I use the New England throwline and a 12oz Stein bag which I find is ok 90% of the time and I have a 16oz bag for redirects in crowded trees or rough bark situations etc if needed. So most of the time I don't bother with different weights, but I can understand why people might want that level of customisation. The Only Fools and Horses reference made me chuckle as my surname means I have in the past been called Dellboy Not that I am anything like that particular plonker, prob more like his brother.