Jason James Gairn

Sorry chap. it's been ten years since. I don't remember the details. We were filling BFL red bags, which i think took about 8 logs, depending on how split they were. The red bags were very prominent on garage forecourts last time I looked. we did some green bags for private sale too, But BFl would take a hundred tons in one season. The company i worked for at the time had to buy the bags from them at 18p per bag.

Hadn't spotted that. Very fine indeed. You can make the brightest spark seem clumsy with spell o check.

Evening Mr.Poynter, who's chipper is this?

But it's a fine line isn't it. And this is a subject close to my heart, but if you had a different job, say for example working in a post office any error on your part wouldn't more than likely end up in A&E. But in this job it would. The error is yours, yes, but the severity of the outcome is because of the context, i.e. the job. I can juggle fire clubs. proud of it too, but i wouldn't do it on the forecourt of my local esso station. the context becomes dangerous.

Got a bee in your bonnet tonight dear chap? Let it all out.

The more you do the quicker you get. Whether that be in a day week or month. Its unkind that the better you get the more bored you get to.

Indeed the road is rammed with idiots. But gravity and the laws of physics can conspire just as much as muppets on the road. Unfortunately for most of us, being stupid is part of being human. Our fallibility makes us humble. As you recall, I have had a couple of twankers, leading eventually to my retirement. Human error can even affect the most safety conscious of us all given enough time. I used to race mountain bikes, and the racing wisdom of the time said that if you never crash, your not going fast enough, but if you do have a crash, your going to fast. I think this philosophy carried over into my climbing. If you've not had a chainsaw cut after 25 years and you consider your self a fast climber, then your doing something very right indeed. If that's you Mr. the Huck, then keep doing what your doing. I salute your professionality and /or luck.

If everything is organised just right, with the conveyor dropping onto a table at the same height as the tray, and the pallet to one side, I could fill 100-180 bags an hour. or 3 a minute. The logs would also have to be smooth. and cut to the right length. Getting everything at an ergonomic height is key to the loader/bagger being able to work quickly. bending down is not an option. adding one extra person who would just bag or just loads the try would be even quicker. The more focused the task the quicker you get at it. Boring as hell of course. how long would it take to make the £200 tray pay for itself? One season we shifted quite a few taught liners.

You shouldn't follow a comma with an `and.

They're both bloody idiots. I hope they both get better at staying alive and one of em gets better full stop. I guess both sentiments are possible. being an Idiot comes and goes, its not pervasive. But a good point none the same.

Genuine question. How do you suggest an industry is measured in as far as how dangerous it is. Is it Risk? Is it Hazard? Is it statistics? I guess one just gets a feeling for it. Pre accident everyone thinks its less dangerous then the same people post accident. Tree surgery is, depending on how you measure it, more dangerous than I.T. But less so than north sea oil diving work. So it's possible for I.T. to become as dangerous as tree surgery, if the I.T. personel are off the hook danger wise, and conversley, Tree surgery is as safe as I.T. if the personel are well placid? Not paying attention in I.T. stapler falls off desk. Not paying attention in tree surgery... johnny greenacres gets his face cut off. Relativity. Init?

and a few removed. new sign on the Harris and that's 25% I reckon

So you think there is a high profit margin on firewood? How much of that £90 is profit an dhow much is covering the cost of the man hours to get it to their door, let alone fuel, insurance, and all the usual overheads? I'd be suprised if £15 was seen clear. But I like surprises, almost as much as I like a lovely open fire and coco.

At College, Charlie Dimmock sliced her hand in half with a pruning knife. Her blood went all over my flower arrangement. I kid you not. I did not win first prize at the flower show.

Natural streamlining according to Darwin. Hope he's OK. Seen that before. inc. Air ambulance. lots of screaming etc.

I would have thought that with the low profit margin on firewood, any one serious about it would invest in the best. From cord to bags on a pallet, a three man team needs to be producing a bag every 15-20 seconds. Otherwise the profit is reduced to nothing. Working a firewood harvester is factory work. The best way to fill the bags is with an ergonomically designed tipping tray device (I'm sure they have a correct name), Everything else is hobby blue peter time. I used to work with a japa machine and it was a hellish existence. But we produced in excess of 10 ton a day on a good day. None of us were particularly good at it either. Is anyone actually making a living from just doing logs? Are the logs well seasoned hardwood split ones too? Or a mix of all sorts of leylandii and willow?

You found me.

Funny as... :001_smile:

The most incendiary topics can be used in comedy. But only by the most skillful of comedians. The trick is to be offensive with the subject matter but extract something universally funny from it. Ricky Gervais is great example of someone who can turn the concentration camps into a joke and not offend Jews. He has covered all the taboos with intelligence and style. Bernard Manning, Roy chubby brown and Jim Davidson by contrast are offensive swine. Yes cancer can be funny, but it has to be very clever and with compassion. As if told by a cancer sufferer themselves, like a radiotherapy joke involving wigs and pubic hair. There's Cancer in my family at the moment, I've had a brush myself. Consequently I am sensitive to the subject, but I also realise that if we can't laugh at our misfortunes we are condemned to be controlled by them. For the record, I'm no fan of racist, homophobic or misogynistic jokes. Unless told by the deft. The deft are rare. Irony is very subtle.

Hi Tom. Which College? Which lecturer? Cannington? Trevor?

Ostentatious Gypsie chic sick grotesque insulting Saddam Hussein style. Dubai has got the lot. Call me Scrooge if you like but Dubai is the end of civilization. Its a great big middle finger to starving Africa is it not? Its built on UK fuel costs, so dont be in any hurry to champion Dubai. Its Laws are insane on the verge of science fiction. Cornwall is better on every level. Spend local that's what I say.

No offense Topher, but can you re-post that. i didn't understand what "hte term is recognised" means. What's bloody silly? Surgery can mean a few things. "I go up to the surgery when I have pubic lice". "My local BNP politician is having a surgery" Within medicine, surgery has many disciplines, blatantly with neuro surgery being the most complex. Common usage is what's most important, but the history is very interesting all the same.

Indeed. Do you know how to load this revolver?

You need to ask if cancer jokes are in good taste?

Domestic Violence aint funny. Ever.