Pick-up speed limits

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

 

Kevin will your dealer have a V5 for their demonstrator?

 

 

I'm still waiting for the all answering link to be sent!

 

I'll ask him about it tomorrow AND ask the question about V5!! 👍🏻

[Johnnyboxer]

Found this

 

Mass in service is defined under The European Directive 95/48/EC which includes 90% fuel and 75kg for driver and tools. As it is an EU wide directive one must assume the DVLA use the same definition shown on the V5. It is generally assumed by most that kerb weight is the same

[openspaceman]

Found this

 

Mass in service is defined under The European Directive 95/48/EC which includes 90% fuel and 75kg for driver and tools. As it is an EU wide directive one must assume the DVLA use the same definition shown on the V5. It is generally assumed by most that kerb weight is the same

 

Nice one johnnyboxer so it does look like hiluxes with a mass in service of 2045 will will be DPV

[Justme]

Mass in service is not the same as curb weight.

[Johnnyboxer]

Mass in service is not the same as curb weight.

 

The driver weight is the difference:thumbup1:

 

It's the confusion between UK and EEC law directives on weights

 

We have UK C&U definitions for a DPV and then the EEC comes in and confuses it, with Mass in Service

 

Soon we will wave goodbye to EU definitions

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Mass in service is not the same as curb weight.

 

Which is not the same as unladen weight..... And so the cycle continues!

[Justme]

The driver weight is the difference:thumbup1:

 

It's the confusion between UK and EEC law directives on weights

 

We have UK C&U definitions for a DPV and then the EEC comes in and confuses it, with Mass in Service

 

Soon we will wave goodbye to EU definitions

 

 

Also the water is not counted. Thats another 5-12kg.

[Johnnyboxer]

Which is not the same as unladen weight..... And so the cycle continues!

 

Just got a copy of my v5c, for my new 3litre Invincible Auto and the Mass in Service figure is 2055kg

 

So the Unladen Weight will be....

 

2055kg minus driver and tools at 75kg, minus 90% of fuel 72kg, Oil 5kg, Water 5kg and that Unladen Weight comes in at approx 1898kg

 

Toyota Claim Kerb Weight at 2030kg for the Vehicle (Fuel/Oil/Water) but no driver

 

So this is all well within the DPV Unladen Weight of a max of 2040kg

 

So I'm happy for 60/70/70 speed limits

 

Interestingly Taxation Class is Light Goods Vehicle and Body Type Light 4x4 Utility and Vehicle Category is N1 (Light Goods up to 3500kg)

[openspaceman]

Which is not the same as unladen weight..... And so the cycle continues!

 

No but it is defined by the EU and on the V5 so it's always going to be 75kg more than the unladen weight, or have I missed something?

[Johnnyboxer]

Have you got to the bottom of it ?