Other tree species that Im uncertain about

[treerjb]

These other five Im a bit stuck with.... what I think is listed below:

 

Sorry for bad images, didn't have my decent camera.

 

 

1. Crataegus Persimilis.

 

Inch long thorns on twigs, cant think of any other similar thorns.

About 5m tall, slightly leaning, spreading crown.

 

2. Pyrus?

 

Bark looks like it, an old tree, fairly large girth, looks too big for a Malus. No fruit yet.

 

3. Cotoneaster Frigidis

 

Farily sure of this one, tree form, slender branches, spear like leaves, definitely not Salix.

 

4. Betula ...? Def a birch I think, a young tree, very small leaves.

 

Colour seems to have been buttery yellow most of the summer.

 

5. Ligustrum?

 

Maybe from elimination, does not seem to be a Holly, Magnolia, or Camelia.

 

Trying to finish survey of over 200 trees before the leaves start moulting...

 

Many thanks for any responses in advance.

[Starscream]

2nd looks a bit like Salix caprea, last one has to be a holly, an old one

[Graham]

Pyrus prob Salix caprea and the holly is perhaps altclarensis.

[Pegather]

Did number 1 have any berries on it? We had to take down a cockspur thorn the other day. Most of the thorns as you say are about an inch long and mainly occurred on the bottom half of each branch closest to its main union. Does it have berries? The one we worked on had clusters of berries which were green but starting to redden and looked like a cross between a small crab apple and a rose hip.

 

No.2 I'd agree looks more Salix than Pyrus.

 

No. 3 not sure but shape could be cotoneaster among other possibilities. Does it have red berries?

 

No. 4 could well be a sickly looking birch.

 

No. 5 Ilex, surely!?

[daltontrees]

Did number 1 have any berries on it? We had to take down a cockspur thorn the other day. Most of the thorns as you say are about an inch long and mainly occurred on the bottom half of each branch closest to its main union. Does it have berries? The one we worked on had clusters of berries which were green but starting to redden and looked like a cross between a small crab apple and a rose hip.

 

No.2 I'd agree looks more Salix than Pyrus.

 

No. 3 not sure but shape could be cotoneaster among other possibilities. Does it have red berries?

 

No. 4 could well be a sickly looking birch.

 

No. 5 Ilex, surely!?

 

I'd go with all of that. Maybe C. crus-galli for the first and I. x altaclarensis for the last.

[treerjb]

Many thanks for comments

 

Maybe 2 is Salix, Ill check again.

 

No 1 has red berries, and thorns.

 

No 3 also has berries earlier in season

 

No 5 may well be holly but couldnt match the form to any in book,some of the leaves have no serrations or spikes at all and fairly thick and leathery.

[treesrus]

2 is goat willow. 4th looks like beech. last is holly.

[treerjb]

Many thanks, Im sure (4) is birch, may be sickly, I was thinking Downy Birch, I will check with council as it must be recently planted.

 

I think the Ilex ID is spot on, wasnt in any of my usual reference books tho.

 

ATB

[fagus]

Big Holly often have no spikes or serrations up high. My surmise is that they do not need to waste energy protecting leaves above the large animal browse line.

Edited September 4, 2016 by fagus
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[treerjb]

A good explanation, thanks