Are there books to teach diesel chipper etc?

[tree-fancier123]

I know there are many books on automotive technology and books on diesel engines - but I wondered what books people could recommend to help turn a novice into someone who could diagnose and repair at least some common diesel chipper faults.

With my Stihl petrol equipment I have done a few bits following the Stihl workshop manuals, valve clearances on a 4 mix etc.

Do Timberwolf, Shliesing etc produce workshop service manuals as well as owner manuals?

I don't expect anyone has a link to a textbook ' How to repair and maintain diesel chippers' but any links to books providing foundational knowledge that would get me on the way much appreciated. I mean if you were trying to train a chipper mechanic through home study (I know not a patch on an apprenticeship) what books would you suggest?

Thanks for reading and any replies

Edited September 12, 2015 by tree-fancier123

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

Kubota engines seem a major player in the euro chippers; is it such you want to be able to service etc?

[tree-fancier123]

Kubota engines seem a major player in the euro chippers; is it such you want to be able to service etc?

 

Yes, Kubota, Deutz, Hatz any. I mean I don't expect to become a mechanic overnight, just wondered what books people would recommend, obviously it's not just the diesel, but hydraulics, electrics, so much to learn. I fully expect to have to pay for repairs as getting the knowledge will take at least a few years.

What reading should I start with?

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

Tell you what, I think it's completely ace that you want to learn this and be self-taught properly and not just try and BS your way through these things - fair play to you. I've got diesel engine books coming out of my ears but a Haynes Brushwood Chipper one hasn't been written yet...

[Brushcutter]

Fundamentals of service from JD.

https://www.deere.com/en_US/services_and_support/manuals/john-deere-publishing.page

 

I've got the set......but mine are from the 70s. They're a good starting point on the basics of everything.

 

This is a page from the Oils, coolants and lubricants book.

[aspenarb]

Good starting point from Brushcutter, TW have all their manuals as downloads so they are pretty much how most chippers function these days, a browse through them wont do you any harm.

 

Manuals | Dealers | Timberwolf UK

 

 

Bob

[leedeerman]

I was daunted my chippers 20 years ago, my advice is get stuck in, by your mistakes you'll learn. Experience is what you need, even with a manual. Get some tools which can help with diagnosis, 12v power pack, a good multi meter are essential, a set of pressure gauges and power spike can really help too. Key is to know how the following systems work, starting,inc the ignition switch, charging, hydraulic, fuelling and the basics of stress control and proximity switches and soliniods. These will apply to machines and their functions are basically the same. Knowing how each part works will let you go through the process of elimination and solve the problem, most of the time! As a rule electric faults are hard to diagnose and easy to fix and mechanicals are the opposite easy to diagnose hard to fix. I worked all this out over the years and now repair for other. Good luck and don't be scared to take things apart.

[tree-fancier123]

the Jon Deere service books do look a good introduction, although at about $100 each volume, would be good to get the same info for less outlay

 

With Stihl you get an owners manual and can buy a separate workshop service manual to do the more technical repairs. Haven't come across any service manuals by chipper manufacturers

 

I've collected a few tools for doing basic jobs on my van. Some stuff like a decent size hydraulic press seems a bit fanciful for now.

Leederman - encouraging to hear that you have learned how to fix your machinery over the years, sounds like it's become part of your work too. Local firms charge 50 + vat per hour for fixing horticultural machinery, so you've got room to manoeuvre

[Brushcutter]

the Jon Deere service books do look a good introduction, although at about $100 each volume, would be good to get the same info for less outlay

 

With Stihl you get an owners manual and can buy a separate workshop service manual to do the more technical repairs. Haven't come across any service manuals by chipper manufacturers

 

I've collected a few tools for doing basic jobs on my van. Some stuff like a decent size hydraulic press seems a bit fanciful for now.

Leederman - encouraging to hear that you have learned how to fix your machinery over the years, sounds like it's become part of your work too. Local firms charge 50 + vat per hour for fixing horticultural machinery, so you've got room to manoeuvre

 

You'd only really need the student one i think. Pop into a Deere dealership and ask to have a look at one if they have them. That would take it down to about $50 a book which is about £32.

 

Ag engineering books may also be worth a look as they will cover compression ignition, hydraulics and electronics.

 

As for a good collection of tools to start doing machine repairs.

Spanners 6-32mm and you really want two of each but at least 2 of 13 15 17 19 22 24 27.

Sockets

good 1/4 drive kit

good 1/2 drive set

If your doing big stuff like tractors then a 3/4 set it worth having too.

Torque wrench - chipper bolts & wheel nuts

Hex & Torxs bits on 1/2 drive

24" scaffold pole

Ball pein hammer

Lump hammer

Assorted screw drivers from little one to big ones.

Pry bar

Chisels & punches

Pliers - needle and regular nose and side cutters

Circlip pliers -need 3 types

Mole grips - good set in two sizes

Adjustable spanners - good quality 10"

Multi meter - good one

good LED work light

10 Tonne bearing puller set

Axle stands x2

Bottle jacks

Filter wrench

Bleed kit

Trailer plug tester ( Worth every penny)

 

I think that is most of the stuff in my tool box. Obviously the deeper you get into it the more you get. I think that would cover most chipper/mower stuff though.

 

I've taught myself a lot through breaking things and putting them right. The more you know about how each bit works the easier it is to fault find whats wrong.

[Billy]

Haynes do a Diesel engine book. Which will teach you the basic principles then it's just a case of if you 'get it' and building experience.