Felling large 100ft pulse pops with squral nest

[10 Bears]

Very clever Mr. Bolam. I see your signature is accurate.

 

Obviously I am referring to the general practice of drey poking which is not considered an acceptable form of squirrel management anymore for the reasons stated.

[10 Bears]

Just for interest - unless I am taking this off topic:

 

http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/PDF/UKRSG%20fcpn004%20gs%20control.pdf

 

See page 5, 2nd paragraph.

[Logrod]

Very clever Mr. Bolam. I see your signature is accurate.

 

Obviously I am referring to the general practice of drey poking which is not considered an acceptable form of squirrel management anymore for the reasons stated.

 

I fail to see why Mark should be accused of talking bollocks this time as the whole thread is concerned with felling a specific tree? Additionally the poking suggestion included the use of a pole to poke - no mention was made of shooting.

 

(FWIW I'm ambivalent about grey squirrels; the ones in my garden I encourage and defend as their antics cheer me up when I'm low and I would love to have their ability to climb and jump; the ones in my forest have an open invitation to my campfire/barbeque but as I don't have a shotgun none have turned up yet)

[matelot]

Not anymore - Drey poking then blasting with a shotgun (I'm assuming that's what you are suggesting here?) is now considered bad practice due to the amount of damage that occurs to the tree that you are trying to protect by taking out the squirrels.

 

You may of course be talking about a rapid shot air rifle or similar, so I would stand corrected in that case.

 

why would drey poking cause any real damage to a tree?

 

The article you link to in a later post says this:

 

"As the presence of steel shot in timber may cause degrade, nonsteel

shot is recommended."

 

It doesn't indicate that all shooting causes damage to trees... how many people shoot with steel? Is steel shot going to do more damage to a tree than a squirrel??

[10 Bears]

the poking suggestion included the use of a pole to poke - no mention was made of shooting.

 

Drey poking is a specific shooting activity. If you refer to the text below from Tornados who made the comment:

 

Grey Squirrels are classed as a pest/vermin.....

 

I'm sure you already know all this so as a shooter I'll take em out when ever I get the chance and one of the recognised/accepted methods used to flush em out of the drey is to poke it with some form of pole.......

 

hence I was referring to:

 

the general practice of drey poking which is not considered an acceptable form of squirrel management anymore for the reasons stated.

 

So yes, my comments were accurate and in the context of meaning.

 

why would drey poking cause any real damage to a tree?

 

Well, it wouldn't, but inaccurate shooting at the stem and branches as the squirrel runs

 

at about 120mph

 

certainly would cause damage.

 

"As the presence of steel shot in timber may cause degrade, nonsteel

shot is recommended."

 

It doesn't indicate that all shooting causes damage to trees...

 

True, but as someone who works in the tree industry, my interest is to protect trees where I can and not advise activities to the contrary.

 

Anecdotally, I have been on site while Drey poking was taking place, and I can assure you that it does cause damage to trees.

[Mark Bolam]

Very clever Mr. Bolam. I see your signature is accurate.

 

Obviously I am referring to the general practice of drey poking which is not considered an acceptable form of squirrel management anymore for the reasons stated.

 

Hahahahaha!

Got you though didn't I?

 

I totally agree about poking, never liked it.

 

I cracked up at Logrods brave effort to defend me, saying I wasn't talking bollocks 'this time'!

 

Thanks mate!

 

I'm a bit ambivalent about the whole squirrel issue.

I've shot hundreds, and totally appreciate the negatives of having greys about, but as I get older I have less and less urge to kill anything.

 

I'm a proper old shooting man gone soft, and I'm probably not the first it's happened to.

 

 

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[10 Bears]

I admit you got me there fair enough.

 

It turned into an interesting side debate in any case - so good effort for calling me out!

[TORNADOS7]

Not anymore - Drey poking then blasting with a shotgun (I'm assuming that's what you are suggesting here?) is now considered bad practice due to the amount of damage that occurs to the tree that you are trying to protect by taking out the squirrels.

 

You may of course be talking about a rapid shot air rifle or similar, so I would stand corrected in that case.

 

Well buddy you'll have to stand corrected then mate as I only shoot 'air rifles' these days, haven't had a shotgun in years !...

[Mark Bolam]

I admit you got me there fair enough.

 

It turned into an interesting side debate in any case - so good effort for calling me out!

 

It's all good food for thought mate!

 

 

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[matelot]

True, but as someone who works in the tree industry, my interest is to protect trees where I can and not advise activities to the contrary.

 

Anecdotally, I have been on site while Drey poking was taking place, and I can assure you that it does cause damage to trees.

 

what type of damage? tbh, I just cant see number 5 shot penetrating a trees bark and getting into the timber (unless fired at very short range).

 

I think we've all seen damage done by squirrels on trees...

 

I enjoy shooting squirrels and I don't want this to turn into a "shooting squirrels kills trees" urban legend.