Kiln dried Firewood - The future ?

[arboriculturist]

 

under tarps mine will go to 22% in winter but in the polytunnel it maintained 16%

 

I agree:thumbup1:

[briquette_seller]

If you are selling a quality product - good or bad - the average customer does not care how it is produced, just look at milk, poultry etc etc etc.

 

Those who kiln dry have a healthy competitive edge at the moment, which has to be accepted.

Those who don't, perhaps need to get better at what they do, to narrow the gap.

 

WTF?

 

Your logs are better than mine because you kiln dry, absolute bull!!!

 

Just because they have been in a kiln for a few days, doesn't make them any better than a fully seasoned air dried log.

 

20% moisture is 20% moisture, regardless of how it got there.

[arboriculturist]

WTF?

 

Your logs are better than mine because you kiln dry, absolute bull!!!

 

Just because they have been in a kiln for a few days, doesn't make them any better than a fully seasoned air dried log.

 

20% moisture is 20% moisture, regardless of how it got there.

 

My post may have been misinterpreted -

 

I am suggesting that those who kiln dry have an advantage because of the RHI, nothing else. I am not in that catagory

[briquette_seller]

My post may have been misinterpreted -

 

I am suggesting that those who kiln dry have an advantage because of the RHI, nothing else. I am not in that catagory

 

Ok, my bad.

[arboriculturist]

Ok, my bad.

 

All good I get what you meant though, claiming Kiln dried is better than air dried is wrong; period.

 

Plenty out there selling quality 20% mc air dried.

 

Appears 20% is the key-word; a bit like Omega 3, carbon neutral, sustainable etc.etc.

[ash_smith123]

My post may have been misinterpreted -

 

 

 

I am suggesting that those who kiln dry have an advantage because of the RHI, nothing else. I am not in that catagory

 

 

We also have an advantage because I can dry it in 7 days. Also situations like a customer ringing 2 weeks ago for 50 cubic metres of biomass fuel for his boiler cut to 500mm and dried to under 25% and needed it quick. Processed it and is coming out of the kiln tomorrow. It will be with him by Tuesday. Less than 3 week turn around for 50 cubic metres. It's a massive boost for income in July!! He will be looking for 200-250 cubic metres a year. That's a massive order I wouldn't have if I didn't have a kiln. You can react to things quickly, if you're air drying it you can't. Simple as that

[briquette_seller]

We also have an advantage because I can dry it in 7 days. Also situations like a customer ringing 2 weeks ago for 50 cubic metres of biomass fuel for his boiler cut to 500mm and dried to under 25% and needed it quick. Processed it and is coming out of the kiln tomorrow. It will be with him by Tuesday. Less than 3 week turn around for 50 cubic metres. It's a massive boost for income in July!! He will be looking for 200-250 cubic metres a year. That's a massive order I wouldn't have if I didn't have a kiln. You can react to things quickly, if you're air drying it you can't. Simple as that

 

I could of had that out the same day, or next day at worst.

Its called being organised.

 

Most merchants that take a living from firewood are organised and can react to demand quickly.

[arboriculturist]

Economies of scale: those who have the resources, business nuance, etc to be in a position to hold stock can react to demand practically overnight, just like they have always done.

 

Those who are unable to meet these criteria have a flawed business model.

 

Never be in a position where you a forced to turn away business - one of the golden rules of running a successfull enterprise.

 

 

However, having a kiln makes life easier for some I am led to believe.

[ash_smith123]

I could of had that out the same day, or next day at worst.

 

Its called being organised.

 

 

 

Most merchants that take a living from firewood are organised and can react to demand quickly.

 

 

So you have 50 cubic metres cut to 500mm, split big and dried to under 25% in the middle for a customer that wants it in 3-4 weeks? And another 50 cubic metres every month after that for the next 4 months? What about if another customer also asks for the same or similar? Do you stock the same again too?

[ash_smith123]

Economies of scale: those who have the resources, business nuance, etc to be in a position to hold stock can react to demand practically overnight, just like they have always done.

 

 

 

Those who are unable to meet these criteria have a flawed business model.

 

 

 

Never be in a position where you a forced to turn away business - one of the golden rules of running a successfull enterprise.

 

 

 

 

 

However, having a kiln makes life easier for some I am led to believe.

 

 

Haha that's hilarious! So I have a flawed business plan because I get £20k+ a year for burning crap wood! [emoji106] yea righto! Another instance, I supply a lot of pizza oven customers, commercial and domestic and they ask only for kiln dried wood. They don't care if air dried can be less than 20% they ask for kiln dried and will only buy kiln dried! A pizza oven restaurant chain that has 6 restaurants asked for "KILN DRIED HARDWOOD" last week and that is what they want. I now supply them 10 cubic metres worth of nets a week and they are opening another 4 restaurants. If I said no I don't do kiln dried they would just go somewhere else. As firewood is my only income it's important to find summer income. I now sell over 50 cubic metres a week to pizza oven customers in the summer! This is my first summer doing pizza oven customers so hopefully it will grow year on year. Good luck with your air drying! [emoji106]