Two ropes for SRWP?

[Marc]

Kevin, your emphasis seems to be on tying in twice whilst cutting.

Well by climbing on 1 rope and clipping my lanyard I am therefore tied in twice. If I cut one or a biner fails I'm still tied in.

Surely that saves the complexities of two ropes?

 

 

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I cannot see how a work positioning strop constitutes a life line, in some instances like spiking up a stem it is your primary means of contact backed up by your life line. I will never consider my lanyard to be primary life support or even in most cases secondary life support. It is merely a work positioning strop, I use it to attain a safe work position to carry out the cut safely therefore effectively eliminating the chance of me coming into contact with my life line.

 

On occasion I will not even use my positioning strop to make a cut and only have one tie in point if I deem there is no chance I'll cut my line, or my rope is deflected so there is no chance of pendulum, or even to allow me to cut and be able to move out of the way if required.

 

This is an old topic the case of using 2 ropes, and thankfully the powers that be were convinced that mandatory 2 independent life lines are not required to carry out tree work safely, this is not too say that there are no circumstances where 2 life lines improve climber safety, this is down to your own industry competence to recognise when 2 ropes are appropriate.

Edited July 4, 2014 by Marc

[kevin bingham]

I think the complexities of two ropes is over stated. I find two ropes to be quite helpful in many occasions. I find it to much less complex then doubled rope climbING honestly

[kevin bingham]

Old mill, as a personal note. I was very lackadaisical about the use of my lanyard and only used it when convenient. But that was just me.

[kevin bingham]

The title of this thread is funny.

[Old Mill Tree Care]

I cannot see how a work positioning strop constitutes a life line, in some instances like spiking up a stem it is your primary means of contact backed up by your life line.

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Good post Marc but I didn't state that the lanyard is a lifeline, I just meant that I'll be tied in twice.

Like you i often don't clip the lanyard in if I think there is no way I can cut my main line.

[DrewB]

personally i class my lanyard as a life line, not long enough to get me to the ground but a lifeline none the less

[Old Mill Tree Care]

Old mill, as a personal note. I was very lackadaisical about the use of my lanyard and only used it when convenient. But that was just me.

 

 

Kevin, I'm the same with my lanyard use, but don't tell anyone!

Lol.

 

 

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[Old Mill Tree Care]

Kevin. I just saw the video on the other thread, you should put it on here.

How important is it to have two bridges?

 

 

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[kevin bingham]

Two bridges is key! So is two swivels. Greatly reduces tangles. I have two pantins as well as two ropes and anchors. Have to say the gear dealers should promote DRT like crazy.

[Marc]

Two bridges is key! So is two swivels. Greatly reduces tangles. I have two pantins as well as two ropes and anchors. Have to say the gear dealers should promote DRT like crazy.

 

Stop speaking in riddles man, and nothing should be made compulsory we are free to choose as many anchors as we want with a minimum of one. I for one do not want to revisit the thought of making 2 lines compulsory in tree work, we all should be able to make our own assessment on every climb as to if 2 ropes are appropriate.