Help me decide

[Cloud9climber]

Currently climb on a hitch climber now but finding it potentially dangerous in certain situations.

 

So spider jack or lockjack?

 

Swaying towards a lock jack but unsure because they are not braked? Are they really jerky, and do you have much control over little movements?

 

I also like the look of them more and the idea of the toggle instead of lever!

 

Would a spider be a lock jack if it didn't have a brake?

 

Tell me what I want ha!

 

 

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[Old Mill Tree Care]

A HC system is not dangerous but if using a VT hitch keep an eye on it.

 

A Lockjack and Spiderjack are the same but SJ had the brake.

It's a personal preference thing.

 

I'd go for a ZigZag.

 

 

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[Arbtech Tree Services]

Same old thing - try before you buy. Went from VT to SJ and never looked back, love the self tending once changed to 11mm.

Whereabouts are you?

 

Regards,

 

Steve.

[Cloud9climber]

Yes, I find using a vt knot, when foot ascending the knot gets pushed us and when you sit back it never holds. I find myself tweaking the top wrap all the time, I just find it a pain.

 

I can't really find many videos on the lock jack though, I'm still trying to figure out why lj is more expensive too.

 

Thanks for your help, oh and I'm in York/Leeds area

 

 

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[treequip]

Yes, I find using a vt knot, when foot ascending the knot gets pushed us and when you sit back it never holds. I find myself tweaking the top wrap all the time, I just find it a pain.

 

I can't really find many videos on the lock jack though, I'm still trying to figure out why lj is more expensive too.

 

Thanks for your help, oh and I'm in York/Leeds area

 

 

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If your VT isn't bighting you need to look at why not. That can be fixed.

 

If you think the VT is "dangerous" wail till you knock the lever on a Lock Jack:laugh1:

[Craig Johnson]

alter the length of your hitch cord or try a different knot and save your money

[Cloud9climber]

I have tried a few different knots but couldn't get on with them! My vt always seems to slacken off so just need to re tie it all the time. I have seen people using sj and lj in competitions and they always look good.

 

I was close to buying a zig zag but after seeking one with 13mm rope decided against it, it's a very snug fit and heard of bad rope wear.

 

 

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[Old Mill Tree Care]

 

I was close to buying a zig zag but after seeking one with 13mm rope decided against it, it's a very snug fit and heard of bad rope wear.

 

A LJ and SJ are just as snug with 13mm rope.

If you're changing to a mechanical you should change to 11.7mm rope at same time to get the best out of it.

All three devices work well with 13mm but they are SO much better on thinner rope.

 

Before you make the change though, don't forget how versatile the HC system is. Remember the options of O-Rig, RADS, etc etc. check Taylor Hammel's videos.

Also, with a HC pulley in your kit all you need is a Rope Wrench to have an SRT set up, should you want to. Neither LJ or SJ should be used for SRT.

 

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[Old Mill Tree Care]

If you're rubbish at footlocking (like me) get a foot grab, regardless of which hitch system you're using.

 

 

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[Tom@JPU]

Change you knot to a knut or distel, much more responsive and reliable knots

 

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