A jist bought me a sawmill off Donedeal!

[difflock]

The band is driven by a 30 HP Motor, (3630 =36"/30HP) and the stand-alone hydraulic powerpack by a 10 HP.

Both Euro spec "soft-start", whatever that means

So 40 HP all up.

On the one hand I swithered about running an engine to drive a generator to drive a motor to drive the band.

When some use an engine to drive the band direct.

However a diesel Genny (with power transmission losses) is still probably cheaper to run than a 25-35HP Petrol engine.

And I have a bulk tank of red for the tractors anyway, so will simply plumb the genny direct off the existing tank.

Ideally, I imagine, a larger Ex standby "open" gen-set, to be housed in a shed.

A sexy big pot 6 cyl 1970's or 1980's vintage.

And I can then leastwise look at powering other stuff off the 3 ph.

Edited May 10, 2014 by difflock

[gensetsteve]

A 30 hp direct on line would need a 97 kva to start it. Your motors are soft start but you also need to start the 10 hp and may want a dust extractor in the future so you are probably back up to 100 kva.

 

I would look for a mid 90's silent perkins powered fg wilson. The old 70's stuff scoffs the diesel. the 90,s stuff good on fuel without getting too electronic.

[difflock]

Am proper disappointed Steve:lol:

Cos I were just ogling a RR Genset an also a sexy big Dorman engined English Electric, never mind the AEC engined Autodiesel (perfect at 96kva too)

This lust based on intimately admiring a 1950's build, ex chicken house standby duty, air-start McLaren Generator at the GDSF.

Nothing was scrimped in that build spec.

But seriously thanks for the sage advice.

Marcus

[dexta]

That's a seriously smart bit of kit

[difflock]

I presume the attraction of a high hours/Ex hire FG Wilson's type genny, as opposed to an older low hours open stand-by set.

Is that the FG Wilson's is "plug an play"(plus ready availability of engine service parts)

Whereas the older stuff will require wiring/re-wiring or a new control panel.

Not quite so concerned about diesel consumption, since prob not be running high hours.

m

[gensetsteve]

Imo the old Dormans were awful and rolls not much better. The parts are now getting difficult and expensive. A 40 year old 125kva c6 rolls will scoff £15 an hour in diesel. A mid nineties perkins phaser £6

 

We find 40yr old standby sets are a night mare we give £500 and allow £1000 for hiab and transport. Send them to auction they make £1500 - £3000

 

If you service an old set and put it to work within a year the avr, windings, crg alt, water pump, piston liners and radiator will have failed.

 

You want a 10-15 year old silent set with 200 hrs on the clock.

 

Up to 15,000 hrs is ok if its been looked after. We often see sets with a new main Alternator after 7000 hrs. we used to get 40,000 hrs out of some of our 3152 and 6354 but skip a few oil changes and leave it running on light load and they were stuffed at 15,000 hrs

[farmerjohn]

The band is driven by a 30 HP Motor, (3630 =36"/30HP) and the stand-alone hydraulic powerpack by a 10 HP.

Both Euro spec "soft-start", whatever that means

So 40 HP all up.

On the one hand I swithered about running an engine to drive a generator to drive a motor to drive the band.

When some use an engine to drive the band direct.

However a diesel Genny (with power transmission losses) is still probably cheaper to run than a 25-35HP Petrol engine.

And I have a bulk tank of red for the tractors anyway, so will simply plumb the genny direct off the existing tank.

Ideally, I imagine, a larger Ex standby "open" gen-set, to be housed in a shed.

A sexy big pot 6 cyl 1970's or 1980's vintage.

And I can then leastwise look at powering other stuff off the 3 ph.

 

Hi,

sawmill looks amazing.

I know a fellow who had a 3ph genny running off a 4 pot kubota engine, not sure what the output was, he had it until he got mains to his (yes cumbria is a little behind the times!!!) he is connected up so it was for sale.

do you want me to ask him if he still has it, cost and output?

[difflock]

Imo the old Dormans were awful and rolls not much better. The parts are now getting difficult and expensive. A 40 year old 125kva c6 rolls will scoff £15 an hour in diesel. A mid nineties perkins phaser £6

 

We find 40yr old standby sets are a night mare we give £500 and allow £1000 for hiab and transport. Send them to auction they make £1500 - £3000

 

If you service an old set and put it to work within a year the avr, windings, crg alt, water pump, piston liners and radiator will have failed.

 

You want a 10-15 year old silent set with 200 hrs on the clock.

 

Up to 15,000 hrs is ok if its been looked after. We often see sets with a new main Alternator after 7000 hrs. we used to get 40,000 hrs out of some of our 3152 and 6354 but skip a few oil changes and leave it running on light load and they were stuffed at 15,000 hrs

 

I was looking at 2000-2500 Hrs (ish)

 

Am going to speak to a local man, tomorrow, who works to MacGen up in Kilrea, rather cross his palm with Silver than buy from afar.

 

 

*****

Farmer John

 

I dont think a 4 pot Kubota ud have the horsepower I need, to drive a nominal 100kvA set.

 

regards

marcus

Edited May 11, 2014 by difflock

[gensetsteve]

I normally work 250 hrs is 6000 miles if that makes sense. You dont see many standby sets with 2000 hrs on the clock they normally run 30 mins a year may be a couple of hrs in bad weather. After 15 years they still look like new save a bit of corrosion on the canopy. Once a set has run 2000 hrs its difficult to work out what its really done. Hr clocks are £10

[difflock]

OK

Makes sense, i reckon 30mph is ave speed door to door for a car (based on 250 thou on the Galaxy when we were still running to the Continent on hols)

I thought perhaps you were referring to ex hire gensets, I did not realize stand-by sets were changed at such low hours AND low years.

Will re-focus my search.

Anyway not rushing, rather get the Mill set up before I locate the genny.

Hmmm?, with a canopied/enclosed/silent genset, I could rig the whole shebang on a tractor drawn trailer chassis, and still be mobile.

cheers

m