Wood Pasture

[corylus]

Ahhh I see....

[corylus]

This is an FC pdf on ancient WP but there is a suggested reading list about woodpasture

 

may open some avenues of investigation

 

http://www.forestry.gov.uk/pdf/ancient.pdf/$FILE/ancient.pdf

 

have a look at pages 48-50 for glossary of technical terms and the reading list

 

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Cheers, downloaded to be digested later.

[agg221]

Just on the subject of hurdles - there were two types. There's the woven type which most people are familiar with, designed for shelter, and the other type designed as a barrier, which is now far less well known. I think it's this second sort you may want to fence off small areas and enable regeneration.

 

Overstood hazel should do the latter rather nicely. I think they were traditionally made from ash but it shouldn't make any difference. There's a good bit on making them about 3/4 of the way through this:

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bl1HQg7aCo]Jack Hargreaves - ratting sticks, coppicing, wattle hurdles - YouTube[/ame]

 

Alec

[corylus]

Just on the subject of hurdles - there were two types. There's the woven type which most people are familiar with, designed for shelter, and the other type designed as a barrier, which is now far less well known. I think it's this second sort you may want to fence off small areas and enable regeneration.

 

Overstood hazel should do the latter rather nicely. I think they were traditionally made from ash but it shouldn't make any difference. There's a good bit on making them about 3/4 of the way through this:

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bl1HQg7aCo]Jack Hargreaves - ratting sticks, coppicing, wattle hurdles - YouTube[/ame]

 

Alec

 

The second sort you mention are still in wide use round here, albeit made out of sawn timber.

 

I would envisage using the out of cycle hazel to make rough woven hurdles, they only need to keep sheep out!

 

Lovely to see Jack H again too.

[Sylvia]

might help/for background?

 

Drowning in money: the untold story of the crazy public spending that makes flooding inevitable | George Monbiot | Comment is free | The Guardian

 

"One day a government consultant was walking over their fields during a rainstorm. He noticed something that fascinated him. The water flashing off the land suddenly disappeared when it reached the belts of trees the farmers had planted. This prompted a major research programme, which produced the following astonishing results: water sinks into the soil under trees at 67 times the rate at which it sinks into the soil under grass. The roots of the trees provide channels down which the water flows, deep into the ground. The soil there becomes a sponge, a reservoir which sucks up water and then releases it slowly. In the pastures, by contrast, the small sharp hooves of the sheep puddle the ground, making it almost impermeable, a hard pan off which the rain gushes."

Edited January 19, 2014 by Sylvia

[woodyguy]

Thanks for sharing. I'd totally forgotten what a delight old Jack was.

Spent Saturday planting Hazel to re-establish coppice (or copse as Jack would prefer).

So great to see his knowledge shared.

[corylus]

Thanks for sharing. I'd totally forgotten what a delight old Jack was.

Spent Saturday planting Hazel to re-establish coppice (or copse as Jack would prefer).

So great to see his knowledge shared.

 

As a pedantist, I couldn't help noticing he spelt froe...fore.

 

Sorry

[Daniël Bos]

As a pedantist, I couldn't help noticing he spelt froe...fore.

 

Sorry

 

As a pedantic git, I believe there is no such word.....

 

Interesting thread by the way, I'm looking to plant up twelve acres on a silvo-pasture basis.

[corylus]

As a pedantic git, I believe there is no such word.....

 

Interesting thread by the way, I'm looking to plant up twelve acres on a silvo-pasture basis.

 

You are correct, there is no such word.....it is a ruse to flush out pedants. First heard on Radio 4 as "no one likes a pedantist.........to which someone replies...'don't you mean pedant?' "

 

(I blame the long dark winters in Swaledale btw)

 

Your project sounds exciting, any more info?

[farmer rod]

Any ideas on how long after coppicing or planting it would be wise to exclude grazing animals. Obviously a bit species dependant.

 

We have coppiced a bit of Ash/Birch with some Oak that used to run with the adjoining field, and have fenced it off, just wondering how long it will take to get animal proof. It is really appreciated by the cattle in the summer as they can get in the shade away from the flies.