Trango Cinch

[High Scale]

We'll, according to Treetools NZ the cinch is still in production and a new model is on the way.

 

So you can't believe everything you read.

[rumination]

You have a link for that? I looked at their website and didn't see anything about it.

[High Scale]

It was on their FB page.

 

Trango Cinch UPDATE - we spoke with Trango in the USA today and the Cinch is still in production. A new model is planned for release in the next couple of weeks - as far as we can ascertain there are a few improvements to get around 'belay' issues covered off in climbing forums. In regards to Cinch failure in belay mode if appears the device is being used incorrectly but changes have been made never-the-less.

 

Well I hope Richard doesn't mind me posting that.

 

So the old model is being replaced by a new model.

Edited January 8, 2014 by High Scale

[rumination]

That's good to know, thanks!

[Logjam]

I was informed that the cinch was originally a belay device for recreational rock climbing. Although it works in a lanyard configuration it isn't fit for purpose and should not be covered under LOLER for commercial operations.

 

The issues with using a Cinch in tree work are explained in the Treetools blog (there are other posts on the topic if you want to read more). It's not about LOLER or even EN numbers (both Cinch & ART Positioner comply with EN567 - mountaineering rope clamps) but the manufacturer instructions for safe use & the recommended rope diameter & type. I agree the Cinch is great on a lanyard but it's worth understanding the arguments for & against. As mentioned in the Treetools blog there is opinion that it should not be used for tree work when there is industry specific equipment, compatible with the majority of arb ropes & designed for the task.

[marcus_arb]

The issues with using a Cinch in tree work are explained in the Treetools blog (there are other posts on the topic if you want to read more). It's not about LOLER or even EN numbers (both Cinch & ART Positioner comply with EN567 - mountaineering rope clamps) but the manufacturer instructions for safe use & the recommended rope diameter & type. I agree the Cinch is great on a lanyard but it's worth understanding the arguments for & against. As mentioned in the Treetools blog there is opinion that it should not be used for tree work when there is industry specific equipment, compatible with the majority of arb ropes & designed for the task.

 

An interesting read for sure. I used a dynamic lanyard for a bit mainly because I had to use it at the German comp if I wanted to use the cinch and I carried on using it after and quite liked having the bit of stretch it had when blocking down. But after getting a sidewinder which comes installed with beeline I just used that which I like aswell. I think the kiwis have the right attitude though that it's not being loaded the same when used as a lanyard adjuster as it is when used as a belay device

[High Scale]

The only recorded accidents with the Cinch appear to have happened when it was used as it was intended, a belay device.

 

Anybody ever heard of problems when used as a lanyard adjuster?

 

Curious is all.

[Ross Smith]

Any pics of the new one floating about

 

 

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[Rich Rule]

I can say it doesn't operate too well in minus temps and snow.