The redirect thread.

[MOG]

hahaha kevin, yeah just flip it out and then chop the branch off. lol pretty funny bro.

[munkymadman]

id like to see some ideas for retrievable redirects as its not really been covered to my knowledge. id like to see what you use and when would you use it? i was toying with an idea of making one and my best solution was a crab and micro pulley on a short double spliced length of cord and a crab the other side. I've always just used natural redirects, or a sling for spots you return to. some of those smaller up down climbs where you just want to raise your anchor point without threading all your gear through the tree would be handy. any thoughts would be interesting

[BenR]

Drop through a fork and don't pull your tail through. Get across to your tail at the bottom, strop in, disconnect and marlin spike it in place/remove from the line and then retrieve with the tail. Bit of friction going down and you need a lot of rope below you. I use a shorter tail and just work back towards my redirects usually. Would love to see some really low friction to retrieve redirects that don't use a lot of rope and cant get stuck

[Craig Johnson]

[munkymadman]

thanks craig, seen that one before looks far too involved to seem worth while, used to use the similar system with Ddrt. but the fact that srt is easier for going up id probably never bother.

BenR,i was discussing your style with the moving of rope around the tree the other day. used to do the same with Ddrt the only benefit with that style was that you could pull it back to you if it didn't fit through the fork. do you ever get it stuck? what happens if you do get it stuck?

[BenR]

Thats why I always take the device off the line (unicender makes it easy) and never leave pegs to get it caught on. Very rare for me to do this for anything other than a quick, close redirect. My lanyard is set up so i can climb off both ends if i want to. But yea its a little risky. I honestly think that there isnt much need for retrieveable redirects when working single line. Just plan your climb well.

 

Log roll hitch as per the video works well, but still requires a decent length of rope. The thing I love about srt is having the exactly right amount of rope in the system needed so I am not constantly redirecting a super long tail.

Edited November 26, 2013 by BenR

[Old Mill Tree Care]

Munkymadman, I have considered retrievable redirects but don't see that it's worth the time or effort.

When ascending back through the tree you go close to your redirect anyway so there is no issue in retrieving it.

Mostly though, climbing SRTWP means the ascent is quicker and easier so its no big deal to maybe set an extra sling/biner to spread the weight, if necessary. .

 

 

Sent with my iPhone from me, to you!

[DrewB]

Yeah I agree that srt really doesn't need retrievable redis like drt does. It's just too easy going back to them and most times I'll make static redirects to give me extra tip's.

[Craig Johnson]

thanks craig, seen that one before looks far too involved to seem worth while, used to use the similar system with Ddrt. but the fact that srt is easier for going up id probably never bother.

BenR,i was discussing your style with the moving of rope around the tree the other day. used to do the same with Ddrt the only benefit with that style was that you could pull it back to you if it didn't fit through the fork. do you ever get it stuck? what happens if you do get it stuck?

 

its not as complicated as it first appears I tie the RRD on with tail of my rope, always comes undone, sling runs down the line happy days.

i'm sure for the young climbers its as quick to nip back up, but when your nearing 50 and 18 stone its all down hill:lol:

[BenR]

Fair one Craig.. When you have that level of experience one pass is always enough and you never miss anything. Ive worked with some incredibly efficient older climbers. However, I still occasionally miss a bit of deadwood or something so it kind of helps to have one pass on the way down and shoot back up the pop the redirect out. Works well for reductions in case any bits don't quite tie in with the overall shape exactly, get them on the way back