Whoa lol

[Craobh]

I like Heli-Loggers, they look as though they know what they're doing. The other show is too much drama for the benefit of TV if you ask me.

 

I know a Canadian over here who wears a pair of caulks, they look the mutt's nuts, I'd definitely get a pair if you could over here. I'm not sure why you can't.

 

You can't lol cause they not legal here lol but I'll tell ya where to get a pair but they'll set ya back round $350

[Pete Mctree]

GOL - game of logging is much nearer how things are run here than the other side of the pond.

Both have there benifits & both seem to suit the type of harvesting perfectly. I'd not want to work softwoods here in the UK with a full wrap handle, long bar & skip chain, on the flip i'd not want to fell a massive cedar with a 346.

 

Nice to share the knowledge

[Craobh]

GOL - game of logging is much nearer how things are run here than the other side of the pond.

Both have there benifits & both seem to suit the type of harvesting perfectly. I'd not want to work softwoods here in the UK with a full wrap handle, long bar & skip chain, on the flip i'd not want to fell a massive cedar with a 346.

 

Nice to share the knowledge

 

Yep horses for courses I agree.

 

 

I only got full wraps on my big saws ...... The only issue I have as such is folks should have a broader knowledge available at the training level if that makes sense???

 

 

I freely admit I know jack about tree surgery but I still think I can learn from it.

[Pete Mctree]

Agreed. Training can be too prescriptive & not open peoples to the variations & subtleties that make the job soooooooo much easier

[Craobh]

Think that may be laid at the door of the guys who dream up the courses. IMO few really ever work in the real world lol

[Rob D]

Yep horses for courses I agree.

 

 

I only got full wraps on my big saws ...... The only issue I have as such is folks should have a broader knowledge available at the training level if that makes sense???

 

 

I freely admit I know jack about tree surgery but I still think I can learn from it.

 

 

 

It's a good point but I suppose like most things it's about compromise... the NPTC courses are pretty expensive now... so if you tried to give more info at the training level the training becomes more expensive...

 

 

I remember when I did my training - was as green as grass - could just about figure out which end of the saw was the one you held! And I found it was expensive then and difficult to take the time off work...

 

 

So a tricky one...

 

 

[Craobh]

It's a good point but I suppose like most things it's about compromise... the NPTC courses are pretty expensive now... so if you tried to give more info at the training level the training becomes more expensive...

 

 

I remember when I did my training - was as green as grass - could just about figure out which end of the saw was the one you held! And I found it was expensive then and difficult to take the time off work...

 

 

So a tricky one...

 

 

 

 

Oh I agree there things all bout money these days and I do feel for the young guys as i'd guess very little funding there. I do worry that a skill set is gonna be lost

 

 

I totally agree that there always has to be a compromise ......but hey I'll throw this one out there should apprenticeships not be pushed again ,.........but properly not just a gimmick???

[Spruce Pirate]

Maybe, just maybe, there is a good opportunity here in refresher training. Perhaps we could split the refresher courses so that those who haven't used a saw since they did the training, or use it very infrequently, go back over the basics. If, on the other hand, you are a professional saw user, by the time you need refreshed, you must, by definition, have a good bit of experience behind you. This would be the time for instructors to introduce more advanced techniques, rather than just running through the basics again.

 

I think I might just have had a good idea there, I'll quit now, while I think I'm ahead, and wait for someone to shoot it down.

[Craobh]

Maybe, just maybe, there is a good opportunity here in refresher training. Perhaps we could split the refresher courses so that those who haven't used a saw since they did the training, or use it very infrequently, go back over the basics. If, on the other hand, you are a professional saw user, by the time you need refreshed, you must, by definition, have a good bit of experience behind you. This would be the time for instructors to introduce more advanced techniques, rather than just running through the basics again.

 

I think I might just have had a good idea there, I'll quit now, while I think I'm ahead, and wait for someone to shoot it down.

 

That is a good idea buddy as it would expand the knowledge and skills

 

 

The prob is where you get the folks to teach???

[Rob D]

I think I might just have had a good idea there, I'll quit now, while I think I'm ahead, and wait for someone to shoot it down.

 

 

 

It's a cracking idea...but in practice - would the employer pay for you to have the time off work and pay for the courses?

 

 

Or would you pay for the courses and take the time to do them as holiday?

 

 

Not shooting anyone down but like I said it's a great idea but in practice hard to work.... which is a shame. But everyone I know who is a tree worker is working pretty flat out.