Alstor 8x8??

[treedave]

Our 4T weimer's been a good trailer on the whole. The wheel track could do with being about 6 inches wider and a steering drawbar would be nice but it's a scaled down big trailer rather than a scaled up small trailer. We've only got the 3m crane on it but as it's a cut down 4.1m e can retrofit the longer booms if we wanted to.

 

Did you ever see pics of the drive unit Steve fitted to one of the smaller JMS trailers? Worked well enough to push the tractor round just off the trailer wheels. Limiting factor with the JMS trailers was they were on quad type tyres so wuld have worn fairly quickly.

 

Chris,

Didn't see the addition that Steve did. Know what you mean about the tyres though. Have looked at Weimers and Vreten. The We 5 looks good but the wheels / tyres would need changing and the draw bar cylinder / hoses looks a bit exposed. like the Vreten 700 as well but heavy and over large for job.

 

Know anyone bring Weimers in?

[Chris Sheppard]

Chris,

Didn't see the addition that Steve did. Know what you mean about the tyres though. Have looked at Weimers and Vreten. The We 5 looks good but the wheels / tyres would need changing and the draw bar cylinder / hoses looks a bit exposed. like the Vreten 700 as well but heavy and over large for job.

 

Know anyone bring Weimers in?

 

Have you seen the smaller, budget Vreten? Can't remember the model number but it's black and red instead of blue and yellow. 4T and 4m or so crane from memory. Tyres were a bit skinny though.

 

As far as I know, Andrew Holmes Forestry still do the Weimers. Not the best to get hold of by email though.....

[RichardT]

Two homebrew Alstor knockoffs, FYI:

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_sVGPG5oA8]RF8 8x8 /3 - YouTube[/ame]

 

Xcat - 8x8 auf 4 Boogieachsen

[treedave]

Cheers Chris, will chase FMS about the smaller vreten, tyres are skinny enough on the 7t! Had some good service off Holmes in the past but usually involved multiple calls.

 

The home brews don't look too shoddy but can't see FC signing them off!

 

 

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[JimE]

We are still working on the idea of the small driven trailer for the alpine.

We really want to go with a PTO driven set up as most of the alpines have a ground speed PTO and it would be good to utilise that. The problem is balancing weight, price and quality.

There are PTO driven tipping trailers available on the market, but none are quite suitable for converting.

AGT 850 is about £18k+vat. One of our 3 ton trailers with a crane is about £8k+vat, if we added £6k+vat for the drive system that would be a total price of about £32k+vat. Cheaper than an Alstor, but would enough people buy it to make it worthwhile developing?

 

Before I worked at Riko I built a small hydraulic drive skidder from scratch. Cracking project, really enjoyed doing it.

Is there actually anyone who would stump the cash to build a rival to the Alstor? Always looking for another project....

Edited March 26, 2013 by JimE

[drythropple]

We are still working on the idea of the small driven trailer for the alpine.

We really want to go with a PTO driven set up as most of the alpines have a ground speed PTO and it would be good to utilise that. The problem is balancing weight, price and quality.

There are PTO driven tipping trailers available on the market, but none are quite suitable for converting.

AGT 850 is about £18k+vat. One of our 3 ton trailers with a crane is about £8k+vat, if we added £6k+vat for the drive system that would be a total price of about £32k+vat. Cheaper than an Alstor, but would enough people buy it to make it worthwhile developing?

 

Before I worked at Riko I built a small hydraulic drive skidder from scratch. Cracking project, really enjoyed doing it.

Is there actually anyone who would stump the cash to build a rival to the Alstor? Always looking for another project....

Have you any photos of your skidder?

[Chris Sheppard]

We are still working on the idea of the small driven trailer for the alpine.

We really want to go with a PTO driven set up as most of the alpines have a ground speed PTO and it would be good to utilise that. The problem is balancing weight, price and quality.

There are PTO driven tipping trailers available on the market, but none are quite suitable for converting.

AGT 850 is about £18k+vat. One of our 3 ton trailers with a crane is about £8k+vat, if we added £6k+vat for the drive system that would be a total price of about £32k+vat. Cheaper than an Alstor, but would enough people buy it to make it worthwhile developing?

 

Before I worked at Riko I built a small hydraulic drive skidder from scratch. Cracking project, really enjoyed doing it.

Is there actually anyone who would stump the cash to build a rival to the Alstor? Always looking for another project....

 

Did you find a home for the skidder Jim? Wonder if it could be strected and have a bogie axle fitted at the back instead without too much chopping?

[JimE]

Hi Chris,

yea, sold it to the guy who built the amphibious cars for Top Gear.

Am working with him using the componenets from it to make an amphibous rescue craft!

Was a bit sad cutting up my lovely tractor, but the new project is pretty interesting!

 

I'd be willing to make another unit more like the alstor, but dont have the cash to stump up!

[normandylumberjack]

Would love to see some photos JimE, sounds like a good piece of kit!

[RichardT]

Jim, If you've got rid of your photos of the mini skidder I've still got the ones you sent me a while back when I was under sore temptation to buy it....just as well it's gone as I've now got shot of the little Mog 411 and created some shed space, but a pity it's getting dismembered.

 

Come to think of it, as you can't at the moment find me a used big alpine maybe you should build me one...