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Well we could always send it to biomass , that will keep the lights on! I think the biggest waste of timber is bio mass! If you look at a lot of our over managed woodlands there's not a single piece of timber on the deck and not a single beetle for the birds to feed on. At least doing things this way will compensate for what's going on else ware!

 

 

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Hi Tim I'm looking for large butts of hard wood do you no of any thanks jon

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get skyline in leave brash for habitat and ill stop moaning when timber is used for what it was grown for andnot wasted. we have invested in skylining and yet still wildlife trusts take the cheapest quotes to leave timber or trash sssi sites with traditional forestry machinery

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:thumbup: Totally. Leave 10% then; in "wildlife stacks", not 750t of prime produce! Skyline - my thoughts exactly.

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Well we could always send it to biomass , that will keep the lights on! I think the biggest waste of timber is bio mass! If you look at a lot of our over managed woodlands there's not a single piece of timber on the deck and not a single beetle for the birds to feed on. At least doing things this way will compensate for what's going on else ware!

 

 

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We have tree surgeons in norfolk sending lorry loads of chip to wales for biomass!

 

Those woods would have originally been coppice and every single twig would have been used and every last piece humped out, yet woods a 100 years were still full of life and rarities. That is just madness.

 

I wouldn't have bothered thinning this year ash dieback will create plenty of gaps for you, every ash i thin now is infected, some woods i manage will have 75% clear space!

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Sorry chaps, just wanted to share my heart breaking pictures of year two of my fell to waste grant. I recon 750t covering fifty acres of prime welsh hardwood, mainly ash, beech and sycamore. All part of a woodland management grant which involves breaking up the structure of an even aged 340 acre woodland in total. Mind you the timber fairies have removed nearly everything that was felled roadside.[ATTACH]117811[/ATTACH][ATTACH]117812[/ATTACH][ATTACH]117813[/ATTACH][ATTACH]117814[/ATTACH]

 

 

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HI TIM YOUR in box is full mate jon :thumbup:

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all for leaving some timber for wildlife but that amount. as pther post small stuff left but rest could have been pulled out and used for timber or firewood. sorry but those who want wildlife get into this bubble which has been created that. anything be woodland meadows grasslands can not be touched or you have to leave things for the bugs and birds. go back 100plus years when woodlands and the like were managed we had more wildlife than we have now. why because most woodlands are neglected or left to rot to keep so they recon the birds and bugs happy. do not agree i believe it has the reverse if the canopy covers a wood it dies so no flowers small trees struggle the old trees fall over as past sale point date and nothing to replace as stunted at birth by no open space to grow.

same for meadows and grasslands left not mown for hay then have to put cattle or sheep on in the winter to eat grass down. then have to mow it like a grassland near me because it had gone hard and brittle and animals would not eat it. rant over

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What a perfect example of why this country is bankrupt. Paying God knows how much to cut to waste under a scheme doubtless administered by countless quangos at a similar cost.

 

Is this really the best the UK has to offer for woodland management?? Would the last person to leave the country turn out the lights.. Oh; I forgot they'll be going out anyway as we can't even manage our long term energy supplies.

 

What a sorry, sorry state to be in for a nation that built an empire.

 

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Well said

 

 

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here here - this country is bogged down with managers, middle managers, quangos and legislation that serves no purpose but to make work for the managers and administrators

 

get rid off all this silly heirarchy and get back to basics - but it will never happen:thumbdown:

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