Interesting Ash

[Eddy_t]

Isn't bracing just a webbing sling type support thing or have I been using the wrong term?

 

 

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[Jesse]

Leave it alone, its done ok to date, 5837 category R or U as it is now , enjoy it as it is, spend your time and money on selecting a really nice tree with good form and plant it as a future replacement , if the Ash lasts 10 more years when it fails then think of pollarding it and you will have an established tree already in place.

[Graham]

Leave it alone, its done ok to date, 5837 category R or U as it is now , enjoy it as it is, spend your time and money on selecting a really nice tree with good form and plant it as a future replacement , QUOTE]if the Ash lasts 10 more years when it fails then think of pollarding it and you will have an established tree already in place.[/

 

But there may not be anything to pollard when it fails. If the tree were mine I'd go for a staged reduction to bring it back to a working pollard although that's probably not a feasible option for the owner.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Leave it alone, its done ok to date, 5837 category R or U as it is now , enjoy it as it is, spend your time and money on selecting a really nice tree with good form and plant it as a future replacement , QUOTE]if the Ash lasts 10 more years when it fails then think of pollarding it and you will have an established tree already in place.[/

 

But there may not be anything to pollard when it fails. If the tree were mine I'd go for a staged reduction to bring it back to a working pollard although that's probably not a feasible option for the owner.

 

If it was mine and I could do anything I liked I would fill the void between the two with good soil to give it something to root into from within.

 

and pollard

[MattyF]

I'm with graham .. Leaving it alone to fall apart would be a crime especially if it is to be retained around a building,wind sail and stress could be dramatically reduced with a 15% reduction and still leave it looking natural.. Don't know if I like the idea of seeing it a pollard again though if it was mine.

Tony's rod brace idea is great!! , invasive bracing is a very under looked viable option that yields good results... Would also look better than a boa cable dangling.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I'm with graham .. Leaving it alone to fall apart would be a crime especially if it is to be retained around a building,wind sail and stress could be dramatically reduced with a 15% reduction and still leave it looking natural.. Don't know if I like the idea of seeing it a pollard again though if it was mine.

Tony's rod brace idea is great!! , invasive bracing is a very under looked viable option that yields good results... Would also look better than a boa cable dangling.

 

I think rod bracing is undervalued, having cut many out of trees I believe with total conviction that the invasive argument is unjustified in 99% of situations.

 

If there is dysfunctional tissues at the point of drilling it can allow spreading of already present dysfunction and fungal activity, but. If into sound wood these rods exclude air and the tree simply grows into them with no discolourations, which is remarkable.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

In image five would appear to be som canker forming at a minor wound of some kind?

 

image 7-8 I stand corrected as there is some buckling occurring on the lower occlusion rolls, the first signs of stresses over and above desired.

[treecreeper arb]

In image five would appear to be som canker forming at a minor wound of some kind?

 

image 7-8 I stand corrected as there is some buckling occurring on the lower occlusion rolls, the first signs of stresses over and above desired.

 

This is all brilliant information and all posts are really appreciated.It means I can go back to the client with as much information as possible,and then of course it will be ultimately his decision.Hopefully,however,we can work out a management plan to prolong the life span of this beauty.

Tony,Im really into your idea ofrod bracing to encourage a natural fuse,as well as the soil suggestion.Unfortunately there are no suitable limbs for the fusion technique to work...do you think that filling part of the cavity with a quality soil would encourage interior roots?brilliant idea,and one id like to pursue..thanks to all who have contributed to this.All opinions appreciated.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

This is all brilliant information and all posts are really appreciated.It means I can go back to the client with as much information as possible,and then of course it will be ultimately his decision.Hopefully,however,we can work out a management plan to prolong the life span of this beauty.

Tony,Im really into your idea ofrod bracing to encourage a natural fuse,as well as the soil suggestion.Unfortunately there are no suitable limbs for the fusion technique to work...do you think that filling part of the cavity with a quality soil would encourage interior roots?brilliant idea,and one id like to pursue..thanks to all who have contributed to this.All opinions appreciated.

 

the soil fill will be imensley good for this tree, allowing roots to form on what has become the tension side but has now no roots. Dont try to limit it just build the soil to a natural mound and allow the overflow to settle its own level:thumbup1:

 

you can still create afusion within the branches, take two branches from the nearest perimeter of the joining and pull the ends together with ropes, if too much resistance tie for a year, then repeat the next till contact can be made between two branches, then strap them together they will fuse no problem, ash do this very well, as do lime beech and oak:thumbup1:

[Graham]

Keep visualising some bridge grafts across that stem. I wonder if the scions were cut long enough and with some flex to counteract the movement between the stems it would work?