Log sales what % goes to the black economy

[Albedo]

Arbtalk is full of people who run their business through their own choice in a high overheads manner. Then they moan at others for running their business’s on lower overheads and call it undercutting.

 

My advice to them is firstly to stop spending money that you don’t need to spend. Secondly, get on the tools yourself, as the highest overheads are in wages.

 

Unless a particular way of doing things is against the law, then it’s a matter of personal choice. I suspect that this is not all a matter of black economy, but a matter of hard personal graft. In my case it is certainly not black as I declare all my earnings.

 

There is another prevalent attitude here on AT which I think is epitomized by the OP. This is that in some way you own your local market. I suspect it’s because you are born and bread there so you think you own it.

 

Anyone has a right to cut wood and sell it anywhere, anytime and any place, no matter where they are from. The assumption that your particular competition are on benefits is just that, an assumption.

 

A question to the OP…What was your price for a loose cube last winter, mine was £70. I’m a tree surgeon selling my excess and not a log merchant. I supply my parents for free with about £2k of wood every year.

[Albedo]

Arbtalk is full of people who run their business through their own choice in a high overheads manner. Then they moan at others for running their business’s on lower overheads and call it undercutting.

 

My advice to them is firstly to stop spending money that you don’t need to spend. Secondly, get on the tools yourself, as the highest overheads are in wages.

 

Unless a particular way of doing things is against the law, then it’s a matter of personal choice. I suspect that this is not all a matter of black economy, but a matter of hard personal graft. In my case it is certainly not black as I declare all my earnings.

 

There is another prevalent attitude here on AT which I think is epitomized by the OP. This is that in some way you own your local market. I suspect it’s because you are born and bread there so you think you own it.

 

Anyone has a right to cut wood and sell it anywhere, anytime and any place, no matter where they are from. The assumption that your particular competition are on benefits is just that, an assumption.

 

A question to the OP…What was your price for a loose cube last winter, mine was £70. I’m a tree surgeon selling my excess and not a log merchant. I supply my parents for free with about £2k of wood every year.

[Dave Martin]

me-ow

 

Only playing devils advocate and trying to spice things up a bit Jack next thing you know we will be putting photos of ourselves on here feeding seagulls

[Dave Martin]

me-ow

 

Only playing devils advocate and trying to spice things up a bit Jack next thing you know we will be putting photos of ourselves on here feeding seagulls

[Dave Martin]

me-ow

 

Only playing devils advocate and trying to spice things up a bit Jack next thing you know we will be putting photos of ourselves on here feeding seagulls

[farmer_ben]

Arbtalk is full of people who run their business through their own choice in a high overheads manner. Then they moan at others for running their business’s on lower overheads and call it undercutting.

 

My advice to them is firstly to stop spending money that you don’t need to spend. Secondly, get on the tools yourself, as the highest overheads are in wages.

 

Unless a particular way of doing things is against the law, then it’s a matter of personal choice. I suspect that this is not all a matter of black economy, but a matter of hard personal graft. In my case it is certainly not black as I declare all my earnings.

 

There is another prevalent attitude here on AT which I think is epitomized by the OP. This is that in some way you own your local market. I suspect it’s because you are born and bread there so you think you own it.

 

Anyone has a right to cut wood and sell it anywhere, anytime and any place, no matter where they are from. The assumption that your particular competition are on benefits is just that, an assumption.

 

A question to the OP…What was your price for a loose cube last winter, mine was £70. I’m a tree surgeon selling my excess and not a log merchant. I supply my parents for free with about £2k of wood every year.

 

Really good reply that mate.

 

The labour bit hit home with me, I'm trying to make logs more profitable all the time and I think cutting casual labour I get in and making thins more automated so I can do more with less help is the way forward imo.

[farmer_ben]

Arbtalk is full of people who run their business through their own choice in a high overheads manner. Then they moan at others for running their business’s on lower overheads and call it undercutting.

 

My advice to them is firstly to stop spending money that you don’t need to spend. Secondly, get on the tools yourself, as the highest overheads are in wages.

 

Unless a particular way of doing things is against the law, then it’s a matter of personal choice. I suspect that this is not all a matter of black economy, but a matter of hard personal graft. In my case it is certainly not black as I declare all my earnings.

 

There is another prevalent attitude here on AT which I think is epitomized by the OP. This is that in some way you own your local market. I suspect it’s because you are born and bread there so you think you own it.

 

Anyone has a right to cut wood and sell it anywhere, anytime and any place, no matter where they are from. The assumption that your particular competition are on benefits is just that, an assumption.

 

A question to the OP…What was your price for a loose cube last winter, mine was £70. I’m a tree surgeon selling my excess and not a log merchant. I supply my parents for free with about £2k of wood every year.

 

Really good reply that mate.

 

The labour bit hit home with me, I'm trying to make logs more profitable all the time and I think cutting casual labour I get in and making thins more automated so I can do more with less help is the way forward imo.

[farmer_ben]

Arbtalk is full of people who run their business through their own choice in a high overheads manner. Then they moan at others for running their business’s on lower overheads and call it undercutting.

 

My advice to them is firstly to stop spending money that you don’t need to spend. Secondly, get on the tools yourself, as the highest overheads are in wages.

 

Unless a particular way of doing things is against the law, then it’s a matter of personal choice. I suspect that this is not all a matter of black economy, but a matter of hard personal graft. In my case it is certainly not black as I declare all my earnings.

 

There is another prevalent attitude here on AT which I think is epitomized by the OP. This is that in some way you own your local market. I suspect it’s because you are born and bread there so you think you own it.

 

Anyone has a right to cut wood and sell it anywhere, anytime and any place, no matter where they are from. The assumption that your particular competition are on benefits is just that, an assumption.

 

A question to the OP…What was your price for a loose cube last winter, mine was £70. I’m a tree surgeon selling my excess and not a log merchant. I supply my parents for free with about £2k of wood every year.

 

Really good reply that mate.

 

The labour bit hit home with me, I'm trying to make logs more profitable all the time and I think cutting casual labour I get in and making thins more automated so I can do more with less help is the way forward imo.

[gensetsteve]

Arbtalk is full of people who run their business through their own choice in a high overheads manner. Then they moan at others for running their business’s on lower overheads and call it undercutting.

 

My advice to them is firstly to stop spending money that you don’t need to spend. Secondly, get on the tools yourself, as the highest overheads are in wages.

 

Unless a particular way of doing things is against the law, then it’s a matter of personal choice. I suspect that this is not all a matter of black economy, but a matter of hard personal graft. In my case it is certainly not black as I declare all my earnings.

 

There is another prevalent attitude here on AT which I think is epitomized by the OP. This is that in some way you own your local market. I suspect it’s because you are born and bread there so you think you own it.

 

Anyone has a right to cut wood and sell it anywhere, anytime and any place, no matter where they are from. The assumption that your particular competition are on benefits is just that, an assumption.

 

A question to the OP…What was your price for a loose cube last winter, mine was £70. I’m a tree surgeon selling my excess and not a log merchant. I supply my parents for free with about £2k of wood every year.

 

Alot of assumptions there most of them wrong

 

I produce most of my logs myself with help on a saturday. When the local competition is selling logs for less than the price of cord wood they cant all be tree surgeons.

 

I was not born and breed in my town and dont think I own it.

 

My logs were 1.5 cu delivered for £130

 

I asked a simple question to get others opinions whereas your post was a personal attack for absolutely no reason

[gensetsteve]

Arbtalk is full of people who run their business through their own choice in a high overheads manner. Then they moan at others for running their business’s on lower overheads and call it undercutting.

 

My advice to them is firstly to stop spending money that you don’t need to spend. Secondly, get on the tools yourself, as the highest overheads are in wages.

 

Unless a particular way of doing things is against the law, then it’s a matter of personal choice. I suspect that this is not all a matter of black economy, but a matter of hard personal graft. In my case it is certainly not black as I declare all my earnings.

 

There is another prevalent attitude here on AT which I think is epitomized by the OP. This is that in some way you own your local market. I suspect it’s because you are born and bread there so you think you own it.

 

Anyone has a right to cut wood and sell it anywhere, anytime and any place, no matter where they are from. The assumption that your particular competition are on benefits is just that, an assumption.

 

A question to the OP…What was your price for a loose cube last winter, mine was £70. I’m a tree surgeon selling my excess and not a log merchant. I supply my parents for free with about £2k of wood every year.

 

Alot of assumptions there most of them wrong

 

I produce most of my logs myself with help on a saturday. When the local competition is selling logs for less than the price of cord wood they cant all be tree surgeons.

 

I was not born and breed in my town and dont think I own it.

 

My logs were 1.5 cu delivered for £130

 

I asked a simple question to get others opinions whereas your post was a personal attack for absolutely no reason