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Ok a question for perusal. If a CAT is such an important life saving tool, and true 1st Aid (over and above an Elastoplast!) why is this not trained in every course. I've been in the workplace some 30years now, been on numerous cousres run by all the major bodies, and never have we been taught this technique. I'm not doubting the efficiency of it, but have only ever been taught to apply pressure with the hand. Obviously all those with a military background are taught this technique, should we be?

 

Dunno if this has already been answered, but a strong reason is that it's a pretty new piece of kit.

 

I've been doing first aid/team medic training on a regular basis since 1989 and the advice used to be quite different.

 

As to why it is not on basic courses now, I have no idea. They make the difference between staying alive and pushing up daisies in a catastrophic limb bleed. It's as simple as that.

 

There is no justifiable reason whatsoever for not training people in how to use them. Ask anyone who's been to Afghan.

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just finished an Occupational First Aid course a few weeks ago. We were told, apply pressure only, no Tournique's.

 

Like the idea of the First Aid clot pad. not mentioned on the course.

 

Good luck stopping an Arterial bleed with just direct pressure! The only realistic way of applying sufficient direct pressure to a Femoral Arterial Bleed would be to locate the pressure point in the groin and stand directly on it. The danger with tourniquets is Toxic Shock Syndrome when they are released which is why you need to be able to tell the Paramedics when it went on. As I have said before on another thread, I carry a CAT and Celox, both of which you are told not to use on courses, but I am more concerned with being able to do everything I can to stop any colleague (most of who are friends as well) from bleeding out than ticking boxes. :001_smile:

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Just been reading about non-pneumatic tourniquets. There are potential problems in addition to toxic shock syndrome, and it's to do with the high pressure gradient. If over-tightened there is serious risk of nerve and muscle and soft tissue damage which might lead to a limb being lopped off. Guess it's important to tighten just enough to stop a bleed. Trouble is, my work mate over-tightens absolutely everything he touches. If he were putting a tourniquet on then I can almost guarantee he'd sever a limb with it!

 

Apparently, there are small size, one handed, pneumatic military tourniquets that greatly reduce risk of damage and are also more effective at stopping blood flow.

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