tree survey or arb impact assessment?

[Paul Barton]

I see your point.

[Nimby]

The planning application should be online. Give us the number then we can answer the question based on sound information.

[sloth]

Final letters of consent detailing conditions are not published are they (I looked recently and ended up having to ask the client for details)?

[ScottF]

Decision notices are generally published with all conditions and any timescales associated with them.

 

I'd be asking the client if they actually have full consent before going any further meself...

[wrekin tree care]

hi all many thanks for all your responses. i cant believe i didn't look at the plan on line before, well they have been granted permission but with condition the main one is:

 

No development shall be commenced until a specification for the sub-surface foundation design of the building has been submitted to and approved in writing by the local planning authority. it shall demonstrate that harm to the root zones of adjacent trees is minimised or avoided. thereafter the foundations shall only be constructed in accordance with the approved specification.

 

well the tree is a mature oak about , with die back 12m tall, dbh 5m. the building will be pad foundation style and one of the pads is 2m away from trunk 18in deep about 1ft by 1ft. i know the trees rpa but the land has always been used for storage with stone down. all other sides are field for cattle .

 

 

And her is a link i hope to the application

11/15775/FUL | Building to store farming implements and machinery | Northwood Weston Jones Lane Weston Jones Newport Staffordshire TF10 8ED

[HCR]

They're looking for an engineering specification - "...specification for the sub-surface foundation design of the building..." It's not a very certain condition either; one person's 'minimised' is not the same as another's.

 

Can the foundation pad be moved or is its position non-negotiable? If the latter they can't lawfully enforce the condition beyond the specification being produced.

[Jesse]

Hi all been working on my first tree survey want to get it right. ive just had a thought though as the client is a barn/storage developer and the details of what they wanted was a bit sketchy. They have planning permission but the LPA have come back to them and told them they need to have a report done on the tree to show that they have considered it in their plans. so my question is, isit a tree survey to bs5837 or a arb inpact assessment?

Both, let's categorize it first and go on from there.

[Paul Barton]

 

well the tree is a mature oak about , with die back 12m tall, dbh 5m. the building will be pad foundation style and one of the pads is 2m away from trunk 18in deep about 1ft by 1ft. i know the trees rpa but the land has always been used for storage with stone down. all other sides are field for cattle .

 

5000mm DBH? Either this tree is a gargantuan or you have measured the circumference instead.

[Paul Jenks]

As I understand it, the latest BS revision is guiding users to get the tree survey carried out prior to design. (Eventually, IMO, it'll insist.) The LA's around and about us are less and less willing to condition consent. They require supporting documents with the planning application. All the documentation, Site Survey Drawing showing tree constraints and RPA's, Tree Survey, Arb Method Statement, Arb Impact Assessment, all have to tie up together so that anyone involved in the building can easily see what they are to do and not to do, where they can dig and not dig and , yes, where they can pee and not pee. (Usually referred to as site welfare facilities.) There should also be provision for arboicultural supervision for the installation of fencing and ground protection, where required, for the siting of site welfare, cement washout, materials storage and contractors parking. If there are to be any works within the RPA of a retained tree, there is now very clear guidance within the BS document on the specification of ground protection and the methodologies for works.

This does make the whole operation a little more onerous for the developer before they have consent but it does make our job easier and the guidelines a lot clearer on what is expected.

[Paul Barton]

At the recent BS5837 roadshow I attended it was suggested that an arb method statement is only submitted with a planning application if there are conflicts with tree RPAs. Otherwise it may not be required at all.