Saving trees condemned to felling-help!

[Steve Bullman]

Well said:thumbup1: I also worry about the rapid rate of development and expansion of this Forum - Does the site have adequate Professional Indemnity Insurance to permit its members to submit posts relating to Tree Hazard Assessment ? or does the site assume all its members to be Qualified to the level of a professional tree inspector and hold the appropriate insurances ? even making tree management recommendations can be incriminating if something untoward were to happen. Please don't all jump on me and Tony I know you are only full of goodness so its not a dig at your intentions at all . I am more thinking about the influx of none tree related individuals / Home owners who have had a site visit from a tree surgeon and who then may prefer to seek and then take advice from this Forum because they prefer what some one is advising on here as apposed to what some one on the ground is advising, who probably does have insurance and who may be better Qualified .

 

Good point. Taken from forum guidelines...

 

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I worry more about the forums reputation when/if a homeowner turns round to a contractor and says something like 'oh but i read this on arbtalk so you must be wrong'

[common lime]

There are many reasons why people wish to have a tree removed and it is all to easy to blame it on hazard and risk because this is consider as a genuine reason to remove a tree.

 

As Temporary TO when a tree that has significant public visual amenity value has a real and not a made up defect and there is high value target within failure distance. It makes the decision to allow the tree to be removed easier to defend from people that might object to the removal of trees than if there is no defect.

 

At the moment there are very few arborist within Councils and when they do remain given thier high work load they need to make assessments and decision quickly. If they have a report saying this tree is dangerous reputable arborist they are not going to invest much time in defending that tree. Unless it turns political:thumbdown:

 

As a matter of interest who condemned the tree? Highways?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

thats it, im neither qualified nor insured so Im out thats too much of a threat for my tastes.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I come across as a lone crusader?

 

Not really, theres loads of folk on this crusade, eventually we will match the fellers and knee jerkers 1-1 instead of 100-1 or maybe its more like 10000-1 who knows, certainly feels like it in my boots at the moment!

 

Stimulating though

[NI Tree]

Interesting thread.

Having worked in the States where tree related qualifications are only really limited to the ISA cert arb, the mentality towards tree preservation in far ahead of the UK! Most (not all. I've worked with some really good ones) arborists and tree officers in the UK are very focused upon reactive and repetative works. Pigeon holed into doing what's always been done with no fore thought to the fact that correct species selection and maintaince would provide healthier and more structurally sound tree stock!

How many climbers could carry out a 'correct' formative prune on a young tree and explain how it will effect growth and structure over the coming years?

That's only to start a trees life.

My ADHD has taken me off subject but I do think tree preservation can be taken too far!

 

i belive in prevervation but can not agree enough with what you said and it cheeper to in the long run but most people do not think like this

 

a stich in time saves nine

 

PS i think it the first time i herd this mentiond on this site

 

and tony i know your trying to get at

Edited May 9, 2012 by NI Tree

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

look, i Know I am a yoghurt knitting, tree hugging fungi lover and that you al think im stark raving bonkers (I would not argue!) but were missing the point here and you bloody know it.

[Sam Thompson]

look, i Know I am a yoghurt knitting, tree hugging fungi lover and that you al think im stark raving bonkers (I would not argue!) but were missing the point here and you bloody know it.

 

 

'Fraid I don't Tone

 

Do you mean like a A-Team of the arb world? Turning up, working for free to do surveys and protect the trees?

 

 

(I'm not getting at you, just confused, it doesn't take much)

[James]

Hey, there's nothing wrong with being a bit bonkers

I'm afraid I am missing the point though - what are you trying to get at?

I'm not having a dig or owt - I just get the impression you're trying to say summat, and I'm missing it

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Ive just been having a quick scan to see trees with principal decays road side both unmanaged and many managed by me, man alive I cant even begin to contemplate what a loss all those trees would amount to. and there all still there too!

 

I am begining to wonder if its wise talking about fungi and giving the skills to know them well, ive no doubt many would use theze skills to fell trees in thename of HS.

 

ive got to consider that dilema, is education better or worse for the environment?

 

if you lot knew how, what would we lose?

 

when you can read the body language with deep insight what would you do with that knowledge? would you learn jus how common these decays are and relax a litle knowing that we are surrounded, or panic fell everytree you read?

 

man alive that for me is frightening a prospect.

[Paul Barton]

 

if you lot knew how, what would we lose?

 

 

"You lot" meaning who?